MP 1 - $400
Villian - Button - $500
Hero - SB $200
BB - $550

Dealt to Hero 79
There is 1 limper and the button makes it $20 to go. I call in the SB. BB calls. Limper calls.

Pot is $80
Flop 456

I check. BB checks. MP Checks. Button bets $35.

I think for a bit and shove for $180. BB folds. MP folds.

Villian tanks for a bit then decides he "has" to call.

Turn 5
River 10

Was this the correct play here? I figured I had 50% equity against most of his range. I think he has either air or an overpair, both of which I am flipping with.

Should I have called the flop and reevaluated on the turn?

I would fold pre but everything you did post is pretty standard.

Standard on flop given your starting stack size. Failing to reload/full buy in is not standard. Calling 10% of your stack on a drawing hand is not standard.

everything is fine.

Not srs right?

Fold pre, calling there is very, very bad.

i thought we had a few more limpers but i still don't mind this

3bb to see whats going to be atleast a 3 way, 13bb pot with 79s isnt so bad assuming op can play well post flop and isn't going to just c/f if he doesn't destroy the flop.

we have a lot of c/shove equity etc on a lot of flops and btns raise is small enough that flopping tp will likely make us good.

This.

yea only bad part was calling pre.

97hh is a fun hand to play but ur short plus OOP. also one thing to think about is are u willing to stack off on TP and if not is Vil spewy enough to stack off on a board with a flush or str8 on it? basically do we really have implied odds with this hand?

I love playing suited connectors like a lot of people but ive been trying to play them only VS certain Vils more and some Vils a lot less.

standard

For starters, top your stack up or sit out. If you insist on playing this shallow, don't play 79s from the sb vs a BTN raiser.

Pretty standard as played though, neither of you are folding this flop.

40bb = bye bye SC and gappers - except in unopened pots on btn and co vs straight forward passive blinds.

Ez fold pre... Your position alone should tell you its garbage.

Post is c/r ai if you know someone will bet, otherwise its a lead if everyone is weak tight.

This is great advice. Always remember you need cash for gappers...

we can't really c/r given stacks

THIS

this is a terrible call pre:
- you have worst position
- 40bb stack

on flop... sure get it in..

yeah I was leaning that way - but was undecided as I am not really familiar with 40BB eff.

Open shove is prolly better.

well since BTN bet like less than HP a c/r still has FE

know what i'm sayin?

No I have no idea what you are saying.

i meant that i disagree with the statement that we "can't c/r due to stacks"

Pot = 80
Eff Stack size = 180

With 9 High - we rarely get called by worse.
With OESD - FD our times of winning is 95% of the time bounded between 30% and 50%.

Each time our opp. fold we win $80 - then our FE's value is equal to % of times he folds multiplied by 80.
So FE of 50% = 80*0.5 = 40.

Because the SPR is so low - the effect of the existing pot size is so great - the change in amount of folds will effect our EV the most when our EV of new $ is less than 50%.

i.e. we will not make any money from our $180 that enters the pot and only lose money - given no worse hand will call.

The effect of any additional money entering the pot on our EV of checking is very slight.
For these reasons:
(a) when he bets he is more likely to call a shove than if he checked. And when he bets thats a subset of ALL his holdings - which is the range he has when facing a shove.
(b) the effect of the increase in the pot on EV (fold) is less than the differential in frequency of folds.

If our FE is 20% - when we shove 20% of $80 = $16
If our FE when he bets $40 and we shove is now 10% - 10% of $120 = $12

If you're able to c/r with fe equity it's because button is a huge fish.

In a 4 way pot, barring something really strange like a c/r and 2 shoves over, button should only be cbetting here if he's getting it in, especially for only 40bbs. Quite frankly, if he's bet/folding here he's a huge fish.

If we want to have any FE we need to just open shove the flop and hope that others don't have enough strength to call.

Also villain should be betting close to pot every time if he's even somewhat competent.

Finally, if this flop checks through it's a disaster for our hand.

EV(call) - is difficult because we have close to direct odds but we have a non-zero chance of 2 other players c/r and our EV vs that range is no greater than 33%. And our implied odds are very low given when we make a hand we either have a 4 str8 board or a made draw which matches our face up action with some RIO.

Our worse case is Ah8h - we are 40-3% vs a made straight and 40% vs a set.

Our EV (call ) vs -66-44,AhKh,AhQh,AhJh,AhTh,Ah8h,Ah5h,Ah3h,Ah2h,87s,87o = 39.2%
0.392* 440

-$7.50

We need 10% FE for shoving to be profitable vs a range of NFD, Nut straights and sets.

44+,AhKh,AhQh,AhJh,AhTh,Ah9h,Ah8h,Ah5h,Ah3h,Ah2h,K hQh,KhJh,KhTh,Kh9h,Kh8h,Kh5h,Kh3h,Kh2h,Qh5h,Jh5h,8 7s,87o

EV (call) is 202

Its prolly not a good range but just to get a feel - if you start throwing in all OPs.

In that case - not unrealistic given BTN would be closing the action.

EV(fold) ~ 0-$8 - prolly less than 10%

So total EV would ~$30

Yeah I think open shoving is prolly best.