2/5 table had just opened up. 1st hand hero had Q Q in mp raised pf got 2 calls and cbet and took it down on a 10 high board. villain 1 called me pf in this hand.

villain 1: old man w/ glasses 70s or 80s bought in for about 600 lost 25 to me on the last hand. Never played w/ him before and this is only the 2nd hand since this table started.

Villain 2: 50s-60s male w/ slicked back hair and glasses i remember his face but can't recall a time i played w/ him but definitely possible i did. I usually am pretty good at remembering people. bought in for 800 or 900 either way he had villain 1 and I covered.

Hero: almost mid 20s has has 551

1 limper in ep
hero in mp: raises to 25 w/ Ac Kd
v1: calls 25 directly to my left in hj
v2: raises to 85
Hero: calls
v1: calls

Flop: Ks 8s 5s (262)

Hero: is thinking how much he wants to bet then all the sudden after abt 10-15 seconds villain 1 donks out 175. Hero looks at dealer then says he didn't act dealer says he didn't think hero did and says you can act. If i bet he can take back his 150 so hero checks.

v1: bets 175
v2: snap shoves his stack
Hero: looks over at villains. v1 looks at his cards again then kind of cups his hands over them and it kind of looks like he is going to fold... so hero???

as for v2 the hands i'm most worried about would be As Kx where he is free rolling me and A A w/ or w/o the spade. I think he shows up here w/ A K a lot. Then A A some of the time and maybe Qs Qx? or As Qs or As Qx maybe even Ax Qs? not sure exactly what to range him on since i don't really have an reads. I'm even more confused as to v1's range here... Any insight is appreciated

snap fold

You can almost never do better than chop this pot and a lot of the time you aint got no outs sucka (or u have like 2 lol)

Yeah this seems like a super easy fold. The hands youre ahead of have pretty good equity vs you, and the hands youre behind to, youre waaaaaay behind. Plus theres the guy behind you as well. Just because he looks like he's going to fold doesnt mean he is. Im always scared of the old man who cant wait to bet and bombs it before it's his turn, lol.

ok i agree w/ you but how about a range for villains? Agree w/ villain 2s range? What about villain 1? How do you react to the bet out of turn? I contemplated 4betting pf but i elected to just call. Anyone 4bet this pre more than not? to what?

+1

if he is Bart I will snap fold, he plays flopped flush fast...

I like shoving preflop or 4betting half our stack to call.

Crap flop man, i think youre behind to one or both v's 90% of the time. V1's bet out of turn saves you a bet so theres a silver lining lol

yeah i thought so. i folded and villain 1 folded then villain 2 showed A K no spade

That is the absolute bottom of his range.

Either way calling where you are at best praying for a chop is bad. If he had AQx good for him.

As for old man betting out of turn, that just makes my easy decision that much easier. If it were some thug looking degen i might be weary of a level, but not an old man who just can't wait to get his chips in. Interesting he folded.

I think i was trying to find a range to justify a call especially after i picked up a read on villain 1 looking like he was folding but i couldn't. later on i would find out that villain 1's fold was even more spectacular since he folded nothing else for the most part after that. So it all worked out