I personally don't know how you fold there man given the action. I call.

I have no clue what people call with a lot of the time, I just know that I stick my chips in and get more back in return.

I'm not being sarcastic.
I can generally guess, but so often people show up with the dumbest of things, that I just stick it in when I've got a strong hand and see what they do.


In this hand, I expected her to have about what she did have.
A5ss, A2ss, ATss, AQss, KTss, 43s (maybe) T9ss, 65ss, mabye 76ss.
Not all of these all the time, but it's most of her range when she doesn't raise the flop imo.

Now without the HH that we were given, this could have been a different read.

LoL assuming people play the same way half of the people that posted in this thread will.

Very results oriented thinking itt. Of course she will have combo draws but that is only a portion of her range. Seeing A5ss and thinking "yea I knew it!" just puts you really far from where you need to be wrt poker.

Can't say much more than what I said in my equity write up other than the add that yes there are spade combos that are missing but that is intentional. This is because bluffs (if you can call A5s a bluff here) are done at frequencies and while she has more spade combos than listed, she does not raise all of them. In fact live villains are notorious for not raising even incredibly strong draws. The easiest way to account for frequency is to remove certain combos in your equity tracker.

When you start listing out every single possible flush draw, you are falling into the trap of "finding reasons to call". Turn is still a rather easy fold, and seeing A5ss does not make anyone "right", just as seeing 33 wouldn't have made anyone "right" either.

Pretty good semi-bluff by villain imo.

'Grats on winning the hand.

If we're shorter I'm just shipping it in on the turn. A bit tougher so deep, but a lot of scary cards can come on the river. I probably still shove turn. I'm a donk tho.

Most of the 2+2 world. I wouldn't take that line even if I knew my opponent's hole cards because I would never expect someone to fold AQ there let alone top two.

how can you fold Top 2 on the turn? We block the 2 higher sets, and we lose to 33. Once the river comes, and she doesn't ship it in, we always have the best hand.

Look I gave you the equity charts. They are really basic and just a start but a turn raise is just always the nuts and even giving her flush combos doesn't make it a call. Seeing villains show up with a bluff does not make it a call. Folding the best hand sometimes in poker is not a mistake.

There are times when I make a tight fold (this isn't one of them) and I get shown a bluff, that doesn't mean my fold was bad. Similarly there are times when I make hero calls (this isn't one of those either) and am correct, but later upon analyzing the hand realize my call was spew. This is bc villains have a range. Won't post anymore on this bc it's not getting through, which in the grand scheme of things is a good result.

As upswinging said if you did indeed want to go with the hand you need to ship it ott.

I strongly disagree that the turn is an 'easy fold' in the same way I disagree the turn is an 'easy call/raise'. It's very close. I completely agree that A5s is near the BOTTOM of villain's range here. She absolutely has sets/QJ in her range as well as a handful of other very strong combo draws.

You gave absolutely no info in OP that would suggest V is bluffy/loose-aggressive/maniac, which universally in LLSNL means "doesn't bluff/doesn't bluff enough". That leaves only value check-raises, which again in LLSNL is universally nutted as f***, and a value c/r can only be a few combos (nearly all of them have you murdered/chopping). She's repping an incredibly narrow range, but low stakes Vs just have what they are repping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bluffs ime.

Even if you insist on assigning bluffs without the proper info to do so, she likely still only has a couple and those all have decent or good equity.

So you're saying V played the hand perfectly?