Villan is old man very nitty hardly played a hand. Hero has been card dead most of the session but raised a few junk hands in postion because the game is soooooooo tight. Heros is image is slightly laggy.

hero is hijack (~600)
Villan UTG (~700)

Hero AA
Two limps two hero
hero raises to 25 AA
Button calls, Villan calls, limpers fold. Pot (90)
When villan calls he starts to reach for more chios then hestitates and just calls. I halfway notice but did not really think about till after the hand.
Flop K42
Villan checks, hero bets 60, button folds, Villan min raises to 120.
Hero?

first off, if game is way tight, why not find a better game?

I played a hand much like this recently. i raise AA, old nit makes the little hesitation move out of the BB, like he wants to reraise, but thinks better of it.

flop K57 rainbow. he checkraises my pot bet OTF all in for 100bb. (which does'nt make a lot of sense fundamentally, but put that out of your mind).
he had AK.
he's not checkraising a set.
good players do that, not old nits.

this isn't a spot, or board where AA is a bluffcatching hand; it's a nutted hand, and you can't fold.
if you're betting the flop, it's so you can build the pot so you can get all in, right?

[QUOTE=stampler;28416193]first off, if game is way tight, why not find a better game?

I played a hand much like this recently. i raise AA, old nit makes the little hesitation move out of the BB, like he wants to reraise, but thinks better of it.

flop K57 rainbow. he checkraises my pot bet OTF all in for 100bb. (which does'nt make a lot of sense fundamentally, but put that out of your mind).
he had AK.
he's not checkraising a set.
good players do that, not old nits.

this isn't a spot, or board where AA is a bluffcatching hand; it's a nutted hand, and you can't fold.
if you're betting the flop, it's so you can build the pot so you can get all in, right?
Im not thinking about folding here. But i do end up getting way to complicant. Im trying to decide the best way to get value. And i have run so bad the last month that I expect to see villan show up with a set of something of here. Sigh

I think you should have raised more preflop, something like $35 given the two limpers. The resulting SPRs would be even better for your hand and you limit villains' ability to profitably set mine against you.

As played, I think it's still fine to commit here. Old man can easily have AK, maybe KQ. Just the 6 AK combos already equals the possible set combos, and if h ever has KQ here, then it's even more +ev.

So the question is how to keep his range widest while we get our stack in. If villain were a thinking aggressive player I like a small 3bet to rep air and have him shove. Given the nit old man though, no matter what you do your hand looks strong. I think calling is better here lest he convinces himself to fold AK. I would then lead turn for 1/2 pot, shove river.

You said you are card dead and laggy. (?) Have you shown down any junk or made any moves? If so, I think a min raise back at him (180). Call any ship. Ship the turn if the K does not pair and we are checked to. It is a bit more than a pot sized bet and he might level himself into calling with AK and your image. If he has a set, just bink one yourself or hit the BD straight.

If you have been playing rocky because you have had no cards, I might just call and see what develops on the turn. He might slow down if you call his check raise if he bets out huge I might have to find a fold against an old nit.

If you have a rocky image and just call I think you should just call down as old nit value-towns himself.

I also like a bigger bet up front in this spot. Thankfully, your board was pretty dry and your image is laggy. Old guys don't like to fold KQ or AK in this spot.

One thing about old guys that don't play a lot of hands, is they are nitty pre-flop but usually pretty stationy post.

I think this will be impossible because his image is a nit -which means he will not get his stack in unless he has the nuts.

Because of this, against this player, I would check back the flop, then try to get 2 streets from him. He limp/called which puts his range (as a nit) at small pocket pairs, and sometimes big pairs/big aces.

Get value from his 55-QQ and lose less when he has a set by checking back flop, 1/2 pot it turn and 1/3-1/4 pot river. (remember, against loose-passives, it would be pot, pot, shove)

Remember, nits don't put their money in the middle unless they have the best hand, and they usually won't stack off w/ just one pair post-flop.

I hate being so nitty against nits, but the way to exploit them is to just fold unless u have nuts.

Also, I agree w/ raise more pre. get value from him while you know u have the best hand.

I like a smallish 3-bet, force this guy to commit himself asap. I'd raise to 210. If called, bet something smallish on turn to force him to commit the rest of his stack on river -- about 150-160. Then you should have no problem getting the rest in OTR.

Ugghh... Check back flop??? I'll sometimes do that to balance my ranges with AK (and partly b/c having AK makes it hard for anyone else to have a K so what are they going to call with?), but never ever ever do that with AA on a K42r board!

I agree i should have raised more pre. It was 5 AM and i have been playing for 10 hours now so things start to get automatic. Im also just real pesemistic at this point, i made a couple mistakes in the last 4 hours. Not huge mistakes, but obvious ones that cost me some money so i just have this negative vibe going at this point.

Hero AA
Two limps two hero
hero raises to 25 AA
Button calls, Villan calls, limpers fold. Pot (90)
When villan calls he starts to reach for more chios then hestitates and just calls. I halfway notice but did not really think about till after the hand.
Flop K42
Villan checks, hero bets 60, button folds, Villan min raises to 120.
Hero calls
turn K42 9
Villan bets 115 pot(445) Hero?

A few orbitz before i raised with k2 got a caller when I bet a j102 board and got to shwodown with the best hand after checking turn and river. Im not sure how much this did for my image as i had folded for two hours staright before that.

Still consider myself a noob but here's my reasoning....interested in discussing cause I'm not 100% confident


You describe V as a nit. From what I thought, Nits generally don't float or call unless they think they have the best hand. They certainly don't raise unless they're sure they have the best.

On a K52 board I think a nit who limp/called pre will only call a bet with TPTK or better. He may not be able to let go JJ/QQ but only for 1 street and he's not stacking off.

Online, playing against nits was always straightforward but I knew I would only get 1 or 2 streets out of them unless it was nuts vs. 2nd nuts.

So, all of my opinion stems from OP's description of villain as being old man very nitty. If he were loose-passive or bad-LAG typical villain, then I would for sure agree with betting every street.

What do you think? Also, OP hold off on results pls, I sometimes get biased and don't want to on this one.