Hero ($900) - early 30's pro/semi-pro whatever white guy. Playing standard TAG and been relatively card dead for last 4 hours. Picking my spots. Viewed as winning player by V's.

V1 ($450) - mid 40's fish...consistent losing player. Calling station and takes a lot of bad lines. Calls in spots that are obvious folds at times.

V2 ($500) - 40's white guy, competent player but running bad today.

V1 limps in MP, V2 raises $15 on button (his standard raise), Hero reraises to $65 from SB with AA. V1 limper calls and V2 folds...

V1's range here is mostly pocket pairs or AT+, KT+...mid or small suited connectors aren't in his 3 bet calling range here.

Flop ($150) - JT5

Hero bets out $85....V1 calls after short deliberation.

Turn ($320) - K

Hero???

Question 2 - What's your opinion on line if V and Hero have equal stack sizes to start the hand??

Bet on the flop was too small. You should be betting closer to pot, $120-140, so that you are set up to shove on basically every turn. As played, still probably shoving turn. Will sometimes get calls from KQ, QJ, KdXd, QdXd, etc. Only KJ or K10 have improved and both should be pretty small parts of his range.

You basically can never play this hand poorly because villain isn't getting the odds to call $65 preflop with any hand and his stack size.

Based on V description I agree to bet more OTF. He's either calling or not ... amount of chips probably not registering to V.

The Turn can go either way if you think you can get a bet out of V or you really want to do some pot control. If V range is super wide and taking your calling station/bad line/bad call description into account there is really no reason not to make this V pay something more to continue.

Lots of V are 'silly' betting or calling, but when they raise or c/r it's serious and that is another thing I want to find out here while the pot is still smaller. I don't really love an A on River, so I want to bet on my terms OTT and put myself into a c/c-c/f situation OTR based on my history with V if I don't feel like I can lead out anymore. GL

We need to bet more on the Flop for value against a station, this Flop hits V's range hard as given per Hero, bet $120

Turn we pick up the gutter, and K hits V's range again, V has $300 left and pot is $320.

We want to GII so shove or $170 and the rest on the River if V flat calls.

We are not ever considering a fold for a PSB IMO.

Think the hand combos behind Hero are only slightly greater than those ahead. Deeper stacked, I'd check/eval. At ES in the OP it is closer given the opponent tendencies. We also have blockers.

Still, I'd lean check/eval. This board is likely hitting his $65 PF call range. If he is totally LP and does not bluff/semi-bluff, the turn will likely check through.

Just pot the flop on draw heavy board and shove any turn. Maybe $120-130 if you don't want to go full pot. It's a 3b pot with 100bb, should play itself. V probably had AQ.

Agree with the consensus that slightly bigger on the flop makes a turn shove more appropriate. As played, still shoving turn and looking to get called by pair/straight draw/flush draw hands.

If we are are $750 deep on the turn, we're bet/folding something around $200. If called, make a bet on the river that leaves some money behind so he doesn't have to call off all of his chips, assuming the obvious draws don't complete. Say $275? We don't want to bet too much that his one pair hands can't call. If we're raised on the river, we'll be forced to call and usually never be good. I don't see him slowplaying a monster that long, however.

Flop sizing is a mistake and puts you in this exact spot as all others said.

What is the logic for bigger flop bet?
Either V has a lower pair(J or T), pocket pair, straight draw, flush draw, or a set.
With a 50% bet, he is pretty much calling with everything except Tx, which you have beat.
So, you should value bet more?

Or, if he's on a draw, you want to make him pay bad odds to see the card?

I don't necessarily agree that flop sizing was too small. It is just a decision to get the stacks in on three streets rather than two streets. I don't think that is all that terrible against this villain, especially knowing he might call down lighter.

Based on your description (seems stationy) even though the board seems to be getting ugly I am still betting this turn. I am torn between betting half his remaining stack and all of it. I sort of think he is calling the rest off with KQ/QJ, Kxdd, and obviously hands that beat us too. I think because he only has a pot sized bet left behind I just put it in on the turn.

Edit: I didn't realize how short he was in first sentence. Based on that I see a case for bigger on flop to set up turn shove.

bet $110 on flop. shove turn. Turn most likely gives him additional equity also but his range is still wide enough for us to value shove and protect our hand from a lot of bad rivers.

If this V was as deep as you I'd take a bet, check/eval line with intention of folding to a barrel on any non Q river. If he checks back and it bricks.. I might get greedy and go for thin value like ~1/2 pot max to make him think we're FOS and get hero'd by Jx or even Tx (e.g. QT, AT).

You're kidding right

Look at the texture. This is not K72r. We're OOP too. Betting 1/2 pot is just FPS even if it's a 3b pot. The turn is also a bad card for us, and given that he is a station we expect him to check back his combo hands a lot (Pair + SD or FD) so if the river bricks we can go for thin value and look a little weak with the bet/check/bet line. If he bets 1/2 pot + on this turn I'd justify a sick fold but that depends a lot on hero's read on the villain.

No...he's not....V had AQ. Hero shoved turn btw and was called by the nuts.

Not an overly complicated hand...agree that flop should've been slightly larger given stack sizes. I was more curious how people play this turn when deeper.

For sure bigger bet on the flop with this texture in a 3 bet pot. We want to get all money in preferably right here on the flop, if not at the turn. 120-130 on the flop and if called the turn card doesent really matter- we are comitted to the hand anyway.

If deeper effective stacks this turn card is one of the absolute worst in the deck for us alongside a diamond-its just smashes huge chunks of villains callingrange in this spot. If villain have us covered this turn card makes me want to slow down and try getting to showdown without stacking off. Check the turn and hope villain check behind. If facing a big bet from villain on this turn card i am tilted towards laying it down actually.

Sounds like you're a little remorseful about it. At least we know if we c-bet 110+ and he calls and we run into AQ after we shove turn and get called we can label this player into the whale category and bumhunt him every visit you make to that cardroom!

If deeper then Turn is b/f based on my theory that these V types love to bet and call, but are pretty much nutted (or at least better than our 1 pair) when they show aggression. GL

Why burn 50bb+ in a turn bet when this card is disgusting for us and V won't exploit his positional advantage a majority of the time?

Grunch

What kind of lines does this villain take post? Will he get crazy with marginal hands on scary boards? Gross spot given V has a PSB left and the K smashes his turn calling range. Seeing as we have the A, more value hands are going to be in his range.

With a range of sets KT+, AT+ we are a coin-flip on the turn. If you think JJ/TT are not in his range (because he raises pre), we're still only 53.6%. I think we only get called by two pair + if we jam here so checking back and evaluating seems the way to go.

Question 2, if we are deeper, this is a good time to bet/fold.

$100 on flop

Check/shove most turns. Including this 1.

Deeper. I like the flop bet size in $90-100. Bet/fold turn most rivers.