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Originally Posted by dgiharris
I guess the question is, what would we expect him to do with 97?
There are two OESDs on the flop, J9, and 97.
Is V going to blast the turn to $315 with J9?
On turn, pot is $150-ish and you lead out $100 and he c/r to $315, that's a big c/r. So to me, the question becomes, would this villain who you describe as "very good aggressive not afriad of running big bluffs..." would he take this line with 97.
if the answer is yes, then we can make a crying call.
If the answer is no, then we fold.
V is in the small blind and I don't see him limping TT so only real set combo he has here is 88.
Also, a very important piece of info that is missing is how villain percieves you. Have you been making big laydowns all day or have you been stacking off light?
If you have been folding to big river bombs all day and this is what villain has seen, then that makes the case he's trying to blow you off the hand so you should call. Conversely, if you have been calling big river bombs all day and villain has seen that then that makes the case he's shoving for value and you should fold...
So imo, this isn't so clear cut as it seems on the surface.
We need to know:
#1) Is this villain capable of taking this line with 97, T9, T8 type hands.
#2) what is your percieved image and how does villain see you
#3) What is your percieved image in terms of big river bets and stack offs
If the answer to #1 is yes and the answer to #2 is he sees you as nitty or weak-tight and #3 is you've been folding to big river bets and having played for stacks yet... then this is a clear call.
If the answer to #1 is no, then we can fold...
If the answer to #1 is maybe and #2 and #3 are the same as above then we can call...
so as always the answer is it depends...
#1 Villain is really good aggressive and definitely capable from what our mutual friends have told me, however, I have not seen so myself and he has definitely not done so the only two sessions I've played with him.
#2 Villain knows that I am a reg at this casino and has been told that I am one of the biggest winners in the game. Villain also knows I'm very thinking and will not pay off lite.
#3 I have not been stacking off light whatsoever and usually only show down the best hand. However, I did play a pot earlier with villain where I folded to a pot sized river bet of his in a spot where he definitely had to have it.