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2/5 live JJ vs 3bet squeeze pf from crazy LAG, what's your line? 2/5 live JJ vs 3bet squeeze pf from crazy LAG, what's your line?

09-18-2009 , 05:35 PM
5/10 table just broke I sat in the 2/5

Villain insanely aggro asian who loves to squeeze, barrels all the time, talks a ton of trash, played with him twice also saw him on neighboring tables a few times each time his stack's gone up and down like a yo-yo. He probably sees me as typical TAG.

PF Hero gets JJ

2 limpers to me I limp in CO knowing that villain in BB would likely raise(normally I probably raise this but the table is deep and active so implied odds were good...)

However, BTN a huuuuuge fish raises to $20, SB a big calling station fish calls, Villain insta-3bets to $80... there's already $135 in the pot, what's your move?

I didn't like calling... villain will definitely 2-3barrel almost any board & stack off when he 3bets... so on a typical Axx Kxx or Qxx board we'll have to play a guessing game for stacks postflop with our hand if we call his 3bet.

Fold? I guess we could find a better spot... however when fish put their money in where I have good equity I'm usually not a fan to "wait for a better spot"...

Shove? I know villain does this move with anything AQs+ TT+ possibly down to AJs & 88 mixed in with the occasional 67s bluff... he squeezes those fish all day long and gets his money from them folding to his aggression... and he's a gambler will pretty much call a shove with a huge part of his 3bet range.. he comes to casino with 10BI's or somethin'..

I know given my description shove is probably standard, just checkin'.

Effective stacks vs villain $420, I was 100% certain BTN & SB would fold.

Last edited by randomplaya; 09-18-2009 at 05:50 PM.
2/5 live JJ vs 3bet squeeze pf from crazy LAG, what's your line? Quote
09-19-2009 , 09:40 PM
put dem chips in the middle sir
2/5 live JJ vs 3bet squeeze pf from crazy LAG, what's your line? Quote
09-19-2009 , 10:00 PM
im sooooo happy to shove here!
2/5 live JJ vs 3bet squeeze pf from crazy LAG, what's your line? Quote
09-19-2009 , 11:20 PM
Yeah, I think it is a fold as you said. Wait for a better spot, no need to clash with the big stacks so early in the tournament. Also to tilt this fish, tank for 2 minutes and open fold. Show him you can make big lay downs. Stare at him straight, and ask, 'I fold you show?' May be also add some fake mucking too.
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09-20-2009 , 01:14 AM
shove
2/5 live JJ vs 3bet squeeze pf from crazy LAG, what's your line? Quote
09-21-2009 , 09:58 AM
Shove is fine imo.
2/5 live JJ vs 3bet squeeze pf from crazy LAG, what's your line? Quote
09-21-2009 , 10:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by novel20
Yeah, I think it is a fold as you said. Wait for a better spot, no need to clash with the big stacks so early in the tournament. Also to tilt this fish, tank for 2 minutes and open fold. Show him you can make big lay downs. Stare at him straight, and ask, 'I fold you show?' May be also add some fake mucking too.
this exactly

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09-21-2009 , 11:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by novel20
Yeah, I think it is a fold as you said. Wait for a better spot, no need to clash with the big stacks so early in the tournament.
thanks for letting me know that it was actually a tournament.. heck I thought it was a cash table I sat in!
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09-21-2009 , 05:19 PM
what place did you end up finishing?
2/5 live JJ vs 3bet squeeze pf from crazy LAG, what's your line? Quote
09-29-2009 , 12:20 PM
Why are you asking this when you stated the answer in your post. You said his range was AJ+ and Mid Pair+.


Are you ahead of his range with JJ?


In summary.

You get the most EV out of shoving because he gives up equity when he folds overcards.

Calling is absolutely horrible.

If your a huge nit on scare money fold.
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09-29-2009 , 02:37 PM
agreed. Shove all day. Loads of dead money. Loads of FE. Loads of EV+ against villains calling range.
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09-29-2009 , 02:53 PM
If he is squeezing as much as you say, this hand clearly calls for a large-ish raise preflop and shove over his 3bet. Don't limp jacks in LP. End of thread.
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09-29-2009 , 06:05 PM
To the people advocating a fold: what hand do you felt here?
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09-30-2009 , 04:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguinz21
If he is squeezing as much as you say, this hand clearly calls for a large-ish raise preflop and shove over his 3bet. Don't limp jacks in LP. End of thread.
This 100%.
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10-01-2009 , 10:46 PM
I dont think theres enough of an overlay to shove with the range you gave him
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