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09-18-2008 , 09:08 AM

Soehnke

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 133

We are playing the daily 2,5 - 5 € game. Avg stakes about 1K.

Im on the button with KK. (1500 €). Utg raises 20. 2 calls. I make it 135 from the button.

UTG calls. (about 1 K)

Flop comes 442rb

He checks and I bet 200. He calls after a while.

Turn is a 5, now theres a flushdraw out there.

He checks again I make it 350 to go.

He calls after a while.

River is a 6. FLushdraw not fullfilled.

What do you have him on now? Aces? He is the tables fish.

What do you do on the river.

Greetings..

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09-18-2008 , 09:20 AM

jjshabado

Carpal Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,732

Value bet. If he's the table fish and he raised preflop but just called your raise I think something in the area of 99-QQ. AA are definitely possible but he'll have hands you're beating often enough that you have to bet.

Edit: Also, you should value bet because you don't have to fear a large reraise that puts you in a tough spot.

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09-18-2008 , 10:09 AM

Tigerpiper

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Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 459

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Originally Posted by jjshabado

Value bet 500.

He shows up with 99-qq often here. KK or AA would have reraised pre.

If he'd hit a set he would have raised with the str8 and fl draws.

Your SPR of 5 and pot committment also support another bet.

And you don't face a massive reraise either (and wouldn't he have reraised a monster earlier?)

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09-18-2008 , 11:05 AM

GFatStacks

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Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 65

He only has 315 left. Put him all in.

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09-18-2008 , 12:49 PM

Destination

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09-19-2008 , 12:49 AM

DMACM

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Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,917

He's the table fish but you put him on Aces? I put the rest in on the river.

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09-19-2008 , 08:25 PM

WCGRider

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Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,029

this is played completely fine assuming you just put him in on the river. I mean honestly what do you think his range is? (Hint, think overpairs)

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09-20-2008 , 09:51 PM

nycplayer

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Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 455

I agree with putting him all in. He can't really fold, and I'd expect to see TT-QQ a lot more often than AA.

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09-21-2008 , 12:42 AM

Soehnke

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 133

Well i checked. He showed 42 for the full boat!

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09-21-2008 , 04:18 AM

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Imaginary F(r)iend

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,198

It looked like 42, but I didn't tell you guys.

That's so obv. 42.

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09-21-2008 , 09:59 AM

#11

Smart Money

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Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,180

Given that the pot is $1,395 and he has just $315 left, do you really need to ask what to do on the river!!?

Even if you knew he loved his hand because he was salivating with an excited smile, big wide eyes, and a hard on; checking the river is losing value long-term.

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09-21-2008 , 10:44 AM

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nycplayer

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Well, I guess I have to change my thinking - after the preflop raise and reraise, you have to include 42o in his range.
(If there was any justice in the world, there would've been a K on the river.)

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09-21-2008 , 08:05 PM

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jjshabado

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To be fair, I knew OP should have checked the river because this hand was posted. The range of villain given that this hand was posted is: 4x, 22, aa, 42, 44 in that order.

Edit: I forgot 3x, 67 and 78. Also likely candidates.

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09-22-2008 , 06:08 PM

#14

onlinebeginner

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,892

lol just bet the river... this will happeen once and a while when people don't know how to play, get over it and laugh about it... btw he checked the river or went all in you never said?

also where the F is this game

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09-24-2008 , 03:49 PM

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Soehnke

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 133

Oh ok. He checked again! It´s the daily live game in Hamburg, Germany!

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