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Originally Posted by akishore
I understand what you're saying, but I'm asking -- do you also just call with TT? JJ? Playing those only to hit a set? Because with those also, you're not going to get that many more flops that you definitely like.
I don't think it's accurate to say you might as well have a suited connector just because you'll be cbetting. Given a reraise if rags come, he might get stubborn with overcards, and you're way more ahead with a pocket pair than with suited connectors. And of course, you hit a set way more often than something with a suited connector (e.g. two pair or better).
I understand that it's a tough and marginal play, oop with a hand like 99. There will be many flops where you won't necessarily know where you stand. So I'm just clarifying, where do you draw the line? I think QQ is a definite reraise, but I'm unclear what you think we should do with JJ and TT.
You hit a set approximately 12% of the time with a PP. With a suited connector, you hit two pair+, 12+ outer approximately 12% of the time. Your equity when you hit is generally higher with a set, but they both hit something about the same about of time. In fact, you will hit two plus+, 8+ outer approximately 25% of the time. I got this from Goofy's post about calling raises with speculative hands.
I think it's a decent question. I hate playing out of position. I don't think 3-betting pocket pairs against steal raises is that big of a mistake if it even is a mistake. Since we are in a live 2-5NL game, I might be tempted to call from the SB, because when I've played 2-5NL live, it's been the lowest NL in the casino, and the players have been very bad. In an online game, I might play pure 3-bet/fold out of the blinds. I'm not sure. This has been something I've been thinking about recently.