2/5 KQ Turns Two Pair - Do You Shove or Raise Small In These Spots? - Page 2 - Live Low-stakes No Limit Poker Forum

Villain can have any number of button clicking combos. 87, Qx hearts, hearts that picked up a straight draw, hell any hearts at all. Perhaps some Q6s and Q5s that these guys can have. Whole lotta BS, and I think it is ALL behind top two.

Definitely raising, likely to 220-250, and looking to collect the last couple hundred on most rivers.

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03-05-2021 , 03:28 PM

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Bighurt52235

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Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 24,218

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Originally Posted by Playbig2000

I don't understand betting so small otf...

If you're thinking about raising now, why didn't you think about getting more value/protection otf, instead of begging people to call with all sorts of draws with great odds?

It's even possible he thinks you have **** because you bet so small otf... why raise now to blow him off mediocre hands? The way it looks is he thinks you're weak and he's trying to take it down with AQ.

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Originally Posted by Playbig2000

Really? Every time someone leads out ott for pot, they have some sort of a draw?

Seriously, it's the complete opposite. That's usually a sign of strength.

Maybe they're not thinking in terms of ranges, but they're thinking "I hit a big hand. I bet big now".

So which is it? Blowing him off a mediocre hand, or is he strong and its time to collect value? Also, 70 into 125 is pot?

Point is, I just don't see us behind at all. Really unlikely 55 or 66 would do this, but that's it.

And like my above post said, you're way off in thinking some random fish wouldn't play a draw this way at a decent clip.

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03-05-2021 , 10:52 PM

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Playbig2000

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11,387

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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235

I'm not sure what your question is, did I get a pot size wrong? Are you arguing when someone plays their hand that way and they lead out ott after the original raiser made a weak looking bet, it's mostly a draw? Of course draws are in their range but the bottom line is for an unknown rec player it's mostly for value but we're in no man's land any way since we dribbled out a small bet otf so we may as well get our money in ott since we only started the hand with 100 bb's (if we're shown down A5 with an ace otr maybe we might not wanna play the hand so passively next time, or when someone woulda called down with AK, K6s, K5s, 56).

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03-05-2021 , 11:01 PM

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kimoser22

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,822

Standard would be to raise and in a normal live
game I’d just rip, so many draws will Yolo it in and you cooler worse 2pr...with your particular combo having the Kh I’d call against a random...don’t know if it’s good or not but you block Kxhh which would call a jam (most Vs at least) and with position against a fishy player don’t think a call is bad...

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