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12-12-2013 , 03:11 PM

neverclassy

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 195

$300 2/5
V is MP ~150 BB - TAG good reg pretty wide range from mp
H BTN ~60 BB - seen as nit

limp to H with K

raise 20$
V flats

flop
67

K

V Bets $45

H flats

turn
4

V shoves

?

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12-12-2013 , 03:29 PM

AncyentMarinere

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If i'm reading the stacks right, there is $117 in the pot, you've got $235 left behind, so it's only a raise of $118, or pot size.

Calling that shove for sure, you easily have the equity against any TAG's range.

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12-12-2013 , 03:47 PM

daveMASS

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 784

Need to call here, getting 2:1

Its so marginal though, not a good spot by any means, but slightly +EV in long run

Against any KQ+ you are only like 27%, but need to factor in your image and what not.

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12-12-2013 , 05:27 PM

Javanewt

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Never folding.

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12-12-2013 , 05:33 PM

Mr_Doomed

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Most likely you have 12 outs Vs his range. Just got to call it off this short with that price although being he aggressor would of been nice. I expect him to turn over AK KQ stuff like that. Vs AA you actually have 2 additional outs.

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12-12-2013 , 05:34 PM

trucdouf

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Easy call.

Probably a scared set. Nut flush is never open shoving.

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12-12-2013 , 05:35 PM

Javanewt

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I put V on more of a two-pair or straight type hand. Isn't a good reg raising or folding in position w/ KQ and raising AK? I'm still calling this short, though, and probably would have raised flop.

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12-12-2013 , 05:39 PM

Snowball2

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We are pretty much calling to hit our flush, I don't think we are ever good with just TPGK. Hitting another king is probably not good. Hitting a J is potentially good though.
So 3 + 9 = 12 outs, about 25% - need 3:1.

There is 117 + 235 (V's bet putting you AI) = ~352, and it will cost you $235 to call. The pot needs to be $705 for you to be making that call. Combined with the strength of V's line, I think it's a fold. Bad equity chasing a flush draw on the turn.

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12-12-2013 , 05:42 PM

Snowball2

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Originally Posted by AncyentMarinere

I don't think that math's right.

Hero starts with 300. By turn he has $235 behind.
V has H covered. By shoving, he's making H call $235 into a pot of $352 ($117 + $235)

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Originally Posted by trucdouf

Easy call.

Probably a scared set. Nut flush is never open shoving.

Are you serious? You know he has a set and you are going to chase your flush?

You can't hit the 6 of diamond so you have 8 clean outs to the flush. That's about 18%. So you need AT LEAST 4:1, or a pot of $904, to call $235 there

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12-12-2013 , 05:44 PM

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Javanewt

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The more I think about it, if V is a good reg TAG, we are way behind here and a flush is about it. I think I would have raised flop, but maybe folding is best now.

How much of a NIT are you? Does V think he can take advantage of you?

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12-12-2013 , 05:52 PM

#11

BVcardshark

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I wouldn't mind shoving the flop with only 60bb. As played I am calling.

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12-12-2013 , 05:56 PM

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Snowball2

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Originally Posted by BVcardshark

I wouldn't mind shoving the flop with only 60bb. As played I am calling.

Shoving $280 into $92 with TPGK and no draws?

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12-12-2013 , 06:30 PM

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jambre

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I think people misread the flop to be 6

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12-12-2013 , 07:11 PM

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neverclassy

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 195

anyways I called and V showed 6 7.. river was Ad for my flush

on a side note, V took a super strong line on a straight draw in a previous hand

Last edited by neverclassy; 12-12-2013 at 07:28 PM.

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