Game is mostly full of passive loose players with 1 or 2 loose aggressive foreigners.

This game plays fairly deep, lots of action, straddling, and not much folding preflop.

SB: $400
BB: $1100
Villain 1: $700
UTG+1: $1500
MP1: $350
MP2(Hero): $1400
Villain 2: $900
HJ: $700
CO: $250
BTN: $1100


Hero dealt: AA

Preflop:
BTN posts $10 straddle, SB folds, BB folds, Villain 1 calls $10, UTG+1 folds, UTG +1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $40, Villain 2 calls $40, HJ calls $40, CO folds, BTN calls $30, Villain 1 calls $30.

Flop: (Pot $207)
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Villain 1 bets $50, Hero calls $50, Villain 2 raises to $140, HJ folds, BTN folds, Villain 1 folds, Hero ?

any over pair is raising there. call. 50 into 207 is a baby bet anyway. If a diamond comes on the turn (or another str8 card) and he bets big we can get away from it. We are calling and we are on alert.

sounds good to me

Need reads, vs most LLSNL fish on this board its a snappity snap bet/fold.

+2

So whats the turn??

Fold to the raise.

So easy to get lost in this hand, and we are against deep stacked villains. We are nearly flipping against hands we are ahead of, and as often as we are up against an overpair, we will also be up against an already made hand. Folding here, doesn't give up much EV and is just a RIO flop

How can you fold w/o any info of the dynamic of the game and the playing style of the vallian? He may be a Lag who would raise with over pair or a SD. Folding to this raise here would be too exploitable.

"Game is mostly full of passive loose players with 1 or 2 loose aggressive foreigners."


If this is true? Why the raise to JUST $40? I have to know. What were you hoping to achieve? Were you hoping someone would rr you? And you could trap? In a 2/5 game, your raise to me says 88-JJ. Make it 70-90, if all four of them still want to call then good luck. Make them PAY to see the flop, obviously with a raise to say 85, EVERYONE at the table knows you have either KK or AA. This is why you need to make them PAY to see it. Do you think a raise to 40 is really going to do anything when everyone is SO DEEP? Your just building the pot. Put the pressure on your opponents, especially with 5? To act behind you, you have to assume two of them are going to call you with just a raise to $40. RAISE MORE PRE and you possibly don't get yourself into this situation.

BUT if you raise to say 85 and get two callers, with how deep you are, your NOT commiting yourself to this hand. I think too many players get married to AA and don't seem to realize you CAN still fold on the flop/turn. In this case, with 4 callers and that flop, I'm folding.



Flop: Fold on flop, TERRIBLE flop for AA, MAYBE I could justify a call if I had the A otherwise don't call $50...there's too much out there that has you beat, two pair, sets, straight, possible flush/nut flush draw. To me its, highly likely one of them flopped a set on you, with already 4 people in the hand I can see one of them calling with a hand like 44-77 because there getting such good odds.

I tend to agree with raising pre more. around 55-60 sounds better to me, but 70 wouldnt be horrible. now we have to fold. another way would be raising after the donk and folding to a raise. now have we got any reads? description of villians ? I fold.

50 pre.

Be a man and call.

PF is too small. In the game as described (mostly loose passive), I'd be opening to $40 minimum with a straddle and no callers. With one limper, I'd make it $50-$60. As played, we need more of a read on V2 in order to proceed here. If V2 is one of the loose passive players, then this is a fold, as this is always two pair, a set or a straight. If V2 is one of the aggressive foreigners, then this could be a call and re-evaluate depending on his tendencies.

You already heard about raising more preflop. Goal is to get 1 or 2 callers here. Find that amount. We're probably playing this OOP as well, go a little higher than you would IP.

I think we're behind to at least 1 of the callers. If we're lucky, we have 2 outs. There is a chance that we need to fill up going runner runner to have the best hand.

Loose means players hit this flop. Passive means that a bet and raise are bad news for our overpair. We might be ahead if they have overpairs, but the raise tells me that isn't likely.

I think I'm waiting for AA on a dry flop before continuing with this action.


V descriptions and HH might provide some justification, but I still think this is a fold to the bet and definitely the raise.

Provide specific reads please.

I call the $50, fold to the raise FWIW.

My only comment is if you're going to the call the rr to $140, you should make the rr to $140.

Stacks are certainly right that V is likely set mining.