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2/5 - Getting raised on flop after 3betting preflop. 2/5 - Getting raised on flop after 3betting preflop.

03-30-2024 , 09:18 AM
Live 2/5 Cash Game, $375 effective. Main villain is a young asian male, haven't seen him play many hands.

Villain raises to $10 from CO, folds to hero in BB with AsKc, who raises to $50. Villain calls.

FLOP
Th7hTd. Pot 102.
Hero bets $50, Villain raises to $100.

Hero?
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03-30-2024 , 11:36 AM
I would start w a check here on flop here. We have a decent hand that can call and we dont want to get raised on this board that heavily favors the preflop caller with position on us.

As played call for the 50 more and see what develops.
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03-30-2024 , 05:45 PM
I would check the flop. SPR is real low and any action might commit hero with just ace high.
As played I give up to the min raise for the same reason. Absent any other information the chance the min raise is a Tx hand trying to get some money in the pot is too high. This is a situation where the min raise could be a bluff but without more information I just get out of the hand while it's cheap.
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03-31-2024 , 02:19 AM
Either checking or betting the flop is okay, but your size is too big. 20% or 33% are okay.

As played, I don't really like just calling. Villain can be doing this with all kinds of hands. 98, flush draws, pocket pairs that are doing the classic, "putting you on AK." Occasionally you're drawing dead, but most of the time I don't think you are. I think it is going to be close between folding and jamming. Jamming looks pretty strong and may even get him to fold out hands like 99, 88. You are flipping vs his flush draws and have some equity vs his pocket pairs. But it's not super clear this is a winning play, I would guess vs population it is maybe slightly winning but close to 0 EV. So folding or jamming both seem reasonable based on reads or even if you just want to flip a coin.
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03-31-2024 , 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mlark
Either checking or betting the flop is okay, but your size is too big. 20% or 33% are okay.

As played, I don't really like just calling. Villain can be doing this with all kinds of hands. 98, flush draws, pocket pairs that are doing the classic, "putting you on AK." Occasionally you're drawing dead, but most of the time I don't think you are. I think it is going to be close between folding and jamming. Jamming looks pretty strong and may even get him to fold out hands like 99, 88. You are flipping vs his flush draws and have some equity vs his pocket pairs. But it's not super clear this is a winning play, I would guess vs population it is maybe slightly winning but close to 0 EV. So folding or jamming both seem reasonable based on reads or even if you just want to flip a coin.
All of this.

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04-05-2024 , 07:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mlark
Either checking or betting the flop is okay, but your size is too big. 20% or 33% are okay.

As played, I don't really like just calling. Villain can be doing this with all kinds of hands. 98, flush draws, pocket pairs that are doing the classic, "putting you on AK." Occasionally you're drawing dead, but most of the time I don't think you are. I think it is going to be close between folding and jamming. Jamming looks pretty strong and may even get him to fold out hands like 99, 88. You are flipping vs his flush draws and have some equity vs his pocket pairs. But it's not super clear this is a winning play, I would guess vs population it is maybe slightly winning but close to 0 EV. So folding or jamming both seem reasonable based on reads or even if you just want to flip a coin.

I sized up a bit because anything smaller just gets called by villain's whole range in these games, so I believe that is the minimum size to get fold equity. Looking back on it now, If I have to bet so large when the effective stacks are this shallow, then a flop check is probably better.

Agreed on not just calling the flop- If I just call then I'm stuck out of position in a bloated pot, praying for a check back if I brick the turn.
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04-05-2024 , 03:59 PM
The fact that you don't know him also means he doesn't know you either, and your 3bet has over pairs written all over it. I would just fold here (I wouldn't be surprised if he even shows up with AA/QQ/KK, it's not out of the question. He raised lol10 then flatted 50 IP pre).
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