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Originally Posted by hyperknit
BloodRose I think you’re a bit confused. CO has 24 combos of QQ+, AK that we expect a call from. And 12 combos of TT, JJ that we expect him to fold. That’s 24/36 call combos.
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Oh yeh, slight error on my part. I think there are only 21 combos of AK and QQ+ though, 6 QQ, 3 AA, 3 KK and 9 AK.
What I'm trying to convey is that once we put in a 4th bet, our own perceived range is so narrow, calling all QQ and AK isn't so profitable (I don't have the stove on right now so I can't check). But if we assign TT+ and AK for 3bet, then our 4bet range can only get tighter than that.
If I can make an analogy here, you came to this forum asking whether you should jam AK here. Meaning you aren't 100% sure jamming AK here is the right play. Just by general gap theory where you'd much rather be jamming one particular hand than calling off with that same particular hand, villain is probably not too keen to just readily call off AK, especially since he is calling a 4bet, which is even tighter than his own 3bet range.
In that sense, we just can't assign him to stack off with all his AK, probably only the 2 AKs left available. Likewise QQ is arguably worse. You don't block AA and KK, and if you are up against AK, you're a flip. And does SB jam JJ here? So we also can't just assign villain to readily call off with QQ so easily either. It's good that we can check retrospectively using pokerstove if QQ is a call, but at the end of the day it is going to be close and on the felt it probably isn't that obvious and sometimes QQ just goes into the muck as well.
21/33 is probably the absolute max CO can call, but realistically I don't think it is that much.