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Old 08-01-2021, 12:25 AM   #1
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2/5 flopped 2nd nutflush lots of action

Hero TAG image. Stack 1050

V1 loose old man. Careful postflop. Stack 495

V2 bad recreational around 30. Passive pre, sometimes aggressive postflop. Makes bad bluffs sometimes. Limp calls for example a big raise pre oop vs a tight player with KTo. Most important mental note is that he overplays hands. Covers hero by a small amount.

V3 really old man and pretty loose. Calls pre in lp with K8o vs ep raiser and floats on JT3r vs big bet. One of the good spots. Stack 290

V2 and V3 are sticky but they can fold.

Hero raises in ep 20 with KQ, 4 callers.

Flop (105) T63
Hero checks, V1 bets 50, V2 raises to 120, V3 calls, bb folds, hero calls, V1 jams for 495 total, V2 calls, V3 goes allin for 290 total, hero?
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Old 08-01-2021, 12:30 AM   #2
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Re: 2/5 flopped 2nd nutflush lots of action

I guess I’m shoving here and hoping V2 has a set or maybe the naked Ac.
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Old 08-01-2021, 12:30 AM   #3
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Re: 2/5 flopped 2nd nutflush lots of action

Such a gross spot. It's likely a fold. There just not that many worse hands people are likely to have.
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Old 08-01-2021, 06:12 AM   #4
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Re: 2/5 flopped 2nd nutflush lots of action

I'm not very good at poker but villain 3 watches villain 1 jam, watches villain 2 call, then shoves his money in?

IMO you're absolutely up against the ace of clubs, although the question is if it's a made flush already like yours...
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Old 08-01-2021, 07:27 AM   #5
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Re: 2/5 flopped 2nd nutflush lots of action

V1 is supposedly careful post flop. Instead of making the super easy call getting over 5:1 for any draw he might have, he just bombs the flop after a raise and calls. I'd fold.
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Old 08-01-2021, 01:13 PM   #6
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Re: 2/5 flopped 2nd nutflush lots of action

The next lowest flush we beat is J9. Are people going nuts with J9cc when AKQc are all unaccounted for? Unless you have reads on both players that they are kinda maniac-ly,I think this is a sigh fold then laugh when V2 fills up and beats the nut flush.
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Old 08-01-2021, 04:25 PM   #7
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Re: 2/5 flopped 2nd nutflush lots of action

Incredibly annoying situation but I would fold. This is a situation where the bad cases are far more bad then the good cases are good. There are possible combinations where you are getting odds, a AcX, TT, 77 for example or Jc9c, TT, Ac3d. In these cases you probably need to dodge both any club and the board pairing. In the bad cases somebody already has the ace high flush and your drawing incredibly thin or dead.
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Old 08-01-2021, 04:35 PM   #8
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Re: 2/5 flopped 2nd nutflush lots of action

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Old 08-01-2021, 11:01 PM   #9
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Re: 2/5 flopped 2nd nutflush lots of action

Thanks for the feedback.

At first I almost folded but after tanking for 2 minutes I jammed. V2 had J8, V3 had 95 and V1 said he had a set but I dont believe it. I think he would have jammed with his stack after the raise to 120.

Maybe I got lucky but my thought process based on pool tendencies and experience in these games was: I dont think V1 always bets the nuts otf. I also dont think that he would 3b jam always otf when he gets raised when holding the nuts. Cant remember what exactly he said when he jammed but it felt like he wasnt sure if he has the best hand but that he now has no other option but to gii.
I also dont think V2 is raising the nuts otf. People mostly trap. Biggest reason for jamming was that he overplays hands.
Because of stacks we kinda ignored V3.

I posted the hand because I had a discussion about it with a pro on my right that wasnt so sure about me getting it in and I also had doubts.
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