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2/5, flop top top, turn flush comes in; mini raised on turn... 2/5, flop top top, turn flush comes in; mini raised on turn...

04-07-2015 , 05:38 PM
2/5$ nlhe Saturday afternoon, full ring

Hero: sat with $500, now have about 1400, late 20s, white male with headphones, no hat or hoodie or glasses. I have been SOOO carddead but managed to use the image to my favor in a few spots. Some Vs have actually said "he only plays the nuts" from across the table and I heard it. A few multiway hands when flush comes in on the turn And hero bets about 2/3 or 3/4 after a few checks, a few opens from LP and cbets where Vs "know" I had AA/KK on safe flops. Little do they know I haven't seen a hand that good all day.
I honestly can only remember one showdown of mine: a few limps to hero in BB. Check to see 10♦️9♦️Xx. Hero bets 3/4, laggy calls. J♦️ Ott and hero checks, laggy shoves and hero calls with Q♦️7♦️. Laggy shows trips and hero wins. Laggy only had about 100$ behind ott.
V- sat with $200 (min for these stakes), late 20s European I think and has been just as tight as hero. We are easily the two nittiest at the table (me because I'm carddead and him bc I think he is just a nit). I believe I played 1/2 with him in the past and he might be breakeven player. He has 3! a handful of times pre (never to my open) with 5x sizings. Ex: EP opens to 25, three callers and V makes it 125 in LP or otb. He has done this about 6 times in the last 8 hours; we started as a brand new table around 1pm and this hand takes place around 11pm. I also remember him in a few overpair vs draws against shortstacks where his pair held up and he was betting lead.

The hand. Fold to Hero in hijack and we make it 25$ With A♥️Q♠️, V calls otb. This is normal sizing for hero and the table.

The flop: Qx8♠️6♠️ (57$)
Hero leads 30$. Looking back, Would rather go justtttt Alil bigger, prob 35$ to get Alil more value from floats or any draw or PP looking me up. 40$ I feel he won't float and might debate folding PPs. It's rare that a $5 difference changes my mind this much, but hero bets $30 somewhat quickly to look like a cbet. V calls without much thought.

The turn: Qx8♠️6♠️J♠️ ($110 after rake)
Hero leads 55$. I am unsure how I feel about this size. I don't wanna get MUBSY and assume V has flush, so I feel a bet is in order. V raises to 120$.

I feel V is raising A♠️K♠️ pre, he should prob be calling any A♠️
X♠️ or pp. Maybe 10♠️9♠️ cAlls pre
Point is, there are a handful of combos that beat us, but still a ton that we crush.

Thoughts? What is our plan for river if we just call and a non spade comes?
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04-07-2015 , 06:01 PM
There is much wisdom to the truism - "never fold a min-raise," but this is probably a fold. Villain is a nit, and he bets when he has it. The board is scary - a flush with two pair and straight potential. This is not the situation to over-value TPTK.

An argument can be made for flatting because villain will never bet the river with worse and you can safely fold. It is possible he is raising the turn to SD cheap. Still, hero has a nut peddler image and the money is getting big for a V who plays 1/3 to get feisty like that - I doubt you are good 25% of the time.
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04-07-2015 , 06:07 PM
How deep is the villain at the start of the hand? You said he started with $200, but does he have more now?


I'd probably go even bigger than you were thinking on the flop, maybe 45ish.
I know it sucks to be card dead all day and then have this happen, but I really think the turn is a fold against a lot of villains. Standard live villains simply aren't aggressive enough in almost every situation, you exploit them by folding to their aggression.
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04-07-2015 , 06:12 PM
baluga theorem, imo. I fold, given reads, after my strong re-eval of a turn raise when holding TPTK, esp on this board.
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04-07-2015 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by socialrunner
How deep is the villain at the start of the hand? You said he started with $200, but does he have more now?
Crap, I meant to say villain sat with $200 (minimun) and now covers hero ... $>1300
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04-07-2015 , 11:37 PM
Meh, I probably let this one go. If V is playing straight forward, which it sounds like he is, then he has hero beat. If V was laggy, creative, a good hand reader, ect., then plays other than B/F the turn could be considered.
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