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Originally Posted by 6bet me
1. I am trying to rep trips (64s, 54s, 43s, A4s), quads (44) and boats (22 and 77). I'm never repping Kx here.
2. I was actually thinking that the villain would take a bet/fold line with 88-QQ. If he's a decent TAG, why wouldn't he try to extract thin value with these hands? Also, why wouldn't the villain bet/fold all his Kx hands and AA hands too? He's only beating a bluff with AA and a decent TAG reg should know this.
3. Same as point 2. I expect the villain to bet/fold a lot on the river when he tries to get thin value from my 7x hands and mid pocket pairs.
4. Whether I would or not is irrelevant... what matters is whether the villain thinks I would. Plenty of low stakes live players take this slow-playing line with monster hands like quads.
On point 2 - Why do you think V's a decent TAG? You say you just met him 20 minutes ago. I think it's unlikely he's value-betting a pair between 88-QQ. That's a very thin value bet, trying to get three streets from 7x when a scare card comes up on the river. Not even sure if it's a good value bet or a better spot to check behind. However, whether or not it's a good value bet, very rare to find people who value bet super thin at 2/5. I'd be more likely to think that he has 88-QQ if he was OOP and made this bet, because then he can be making a blocking bet. In position, he can just check back and realize his showdown value.
So, I think for this hand to make sense you need to get folds from Kx hands, mainly AK and KQ. Problem is that people don't like to bluff two streets, hit their hand, then fold. I'd want more history with V to try that bluff, particularly when I could hero-call and be ahead of his bluffing range. Doubt he's folding AA, getting people to fold AA on boards that aren't super wet is very, very difficult.
On point 4, I think the "standard" line for strong hand OOP here is x/c flop, x/c turn, lead river. Thinking is that you don't want to lose V on early streets, but don't want him to check behind on river. X/c flop, x/c turn, x/r river is a much more rare line. I can't say for sure, but it can be perceived as if someone got to the river and was facing a bet, and realized they couldn't win without making a move.