UTG+1 ~1300 - Old dude who floats with weird ****. Have seen him snap call flop and turn oop with like 3rd pair then snap shove a river that brought a 4 flush (without the flush). Apparently pretty bluffy.

UTG+3 ~1100 - Super fish who buys in for 200 and calls all kinds of stuff.

CO ~800 - Strong player who is currently playing tight.

BTN(Hero) ~1600 - Tightish image, recently got it in with top 2p with UTG+3 who called with a straight and I rivered a boat.

I have AKo

PRE:
LIMP, LIMP, CO opens to 25, Hero calls, villains call

FLOP(105): TJ6r
Checks through

TURN(105): Qs (two spades now)
Check, UTG+3 bets 60, CO raises to 160, Hero???, UTG+1 calls 160 out of turn (out of turn actions are not binding where I play)


Best way to extract value here? Should I make a small 3bet knowing UTG+1 is likely to call given how fast he snapped off CO's raise, or should I just call to keep the rest in? Should I consider charging flush draws or does CO's raise do that for me?

A raise looks really strong but if you want to get stacks in its probabably best. A small raise or a min raise looks good, a call prices in flush draws if you consider implied odds. There is also some chance you chop with CO and a small raise gives him a chance to shove which would be ok, driving out other hands and splitting the dead money.

Raise to 450.

I agree with a raise here. Cutoff has plenty of chips and won't fold. Too many river cards either put you behind or kill your action.

If it were vs 1 or 2 opponents, I would consider flatting to keep utg+1 and utg+3 in the hand, and then get it in on a safe river, but with 4 players, just raise. Raise to $450 or something. Bomb any nonspade/non board pairing river.

Imo, because I have been butt raped for doing it, just don't slow play, especially not against 4 people. Just start building the pot and get ready to get called in 1 or 2 spots anyway.

Grunch

Hero raises to $350-$400 and gets it all in if given the chance. We want to charge everyone who does not have AK as we may very well be chopping with flop raiser.

Do you have a spade in your hand. if you don't there is always a chance that one of the V's is freerolling the current nuts.

GS

Also if you do have the A of spades you could slow down a little if you think you can bluff a chopper out on the river. If I had the ace I might make a min raise in this spot but more than likely I make it $350 or 400 to go.

GS

I feel like the best way to extract value is flat calling here.. if one of the donks has 89, K9 or 2 pair they will likely put more in on a blank river. I realize it's dangerous and risky, but your question was how best to extract. If you flat call, you will get what appears to be about $600 in the pot (from the other players $160x3 +$105) with one card to come when you have the nuts. Any blank river and figure you get another $250 maybe more.

Nonetheless, I hate slowplaying and would probably pop it to 550 and hope 89 or K9, a set or 2pr can't fold.

Also if c/o is a tight player he probably has AK also... can't see what he would raise with here on the turn besides AK... 89s? QT?

My expert opinion is that, when you have the nuts and multiple interested persons in the hand, the best way to make money is to put lots of chips in the pot.

Art of eliciting calls. Few understands it, even fewer have mastered it.

Especially on the turn. Get as much money in as possible.

Zeth, I haven't noticed you here (probably my bad). FWIW for the rest of you who don't know him, Zeth wrote one of the handful of OP that had a big impact on my game.

hey, venice. Not your bad; I just showed up here like yesterday, now that I'm retired from online poker and only play in the occasional home game. I honestly don't even know which OP you're talking about , but thanks for the kind words. Awesome to see you're still around.

But seriously, showing this hand to somebody and asking him what to do on the turn would be an excellent way to test for category three FPS.

FWIW, I think flatting pre is a big mistake.
If CO is as good as you say he is, he's going to isolate the fish with position a lot.
Indeed, his sizing makes it look more like isolation than pure value (it's not like they would've folded for 40, right?)
more importantly, you have to 3bet AK here and actually 3bet quite wide.
in first glance, isolating the decent player seems insane because it means pushing the fish out. however, in the long run, that's the way to go in order to enjoy action from the fish.
you don't need a strong player between the fish and yourself. it's you who should isolate the fish and thus enjoy their action, not him! 3bet him every time you got a playable hand and notice that he tries to isolate the fish. I would guess there's a better chance he'll shut down and let you enjoy their action or simply get up and leave than switch gears and look for aggressive ways to counter your plan - 4betting wide, flatting and c/r'ing flop light, etc...
if he decides to leave, you can either take his seat and get closer to the money or get lucky and have a fish taking his seat...