Returned from my annual vegas trip on Sunday. Played 2/5 primarily at Aria, Bellagio, PH and Venetian. Good trip and positive results overall. A few funny run ins with Paul Magriel (again) and Burt Boutin, but no one else of note. This hand involved neither.

Played in a 2/5 game at Aria on Sat. afternoon. Sitting in the bb with 850 behind.

UTG +2 raises to 15, which was rather standard for this table, 3 callers. I 4 bet to 75 from BB with KsKc.

The original raiser, who has me covered, 4 bets to 225.

I call. Pot is 510ish and I have 625 behind.

Flop is Kh Jh 3s

I pushed and was instacalled by AA. Board ran out and I doubled up.

I am stacking my chips and 2 players at the table both ask why did you push and otherwise berating the play.

Is this a terrible line? Perhaps all the money goes in if he cbets and I checkraise. It struck me though that, aside from not wanting to give a free card, that the slight overbet push might suggest I was simply trying to buy the pot, or if he really did have AA, that I was holding AK. Thoughts?

Its pretty terrible, however any line ypu take will be +ev when holding the nuts lol...

There probably isnt a hand in his range with significant equity vs yours. Don't dwny him an opportunity to put some chips on the pot.

I really wouldn't worry about the free card. FD's are a tiny tiny part of his range as well as 10Q (almost zero). he is usually 4betting AA KK (which we can now discount) & QQ (possibly AK but unlikely).

You got a good flop, I would have checked to him. It's not too often we flop great flops and when we do we need to get as much money out of them as we possibly can.

1. Anybody who berates your play at the table is a moron.
2. Your goal here is to bet as much as you can and still get called.

What is villains 4b range?

AA probably calls your psb.
Bluff folds to anything.
AK - if it's even in his 4b range - probably cannot find a fold here.

Is a flush draw like QJh ever in his 4b range? I doubt it.

I love over betting the pot when I have a monster. Makes them wonder if I'm bluffing. Not that you overbet the pot. There ain't a thing wrong with a psb otf.

I dunno, I'm not Gods gift to poker or anything but you got gonads. The only thing left is to say "Nice call my little princess."

With 510 in the pot already. And you have 625 behind, you are going to get the money in the pot a lot of different ways. If you bet 250, it is only leaving you 375 behind. After his call of the 250, the pot has 1010. He is calling any bet on the turn as long as the flush doesn't come. If you check to him, and he bets, that bet will be at worse in the 200-300 range. Based on that size, the money is going in again. Only if you check and he checks behind is the money in doubt of going in OR if the flush gets there on the turn.

Lol at anyone that berates you.
F-them..

Spr is a bit awkward and your only real bet is all in.
Stop worrying about the others and just play your hand.

"If you have 3k back and jam that's a whole different story"

This is pretty standard. As almost all 4b at this level are QQ+ and (almost never QQ)

The fact is your SPR IS awkward and the ONLY line is a push. What reasonable alternative do you have a 2/3 size bet to block the back door draws if a 10 or Q hits the turn (can't see villain having a flush draw here?) That leaves you less than 300 to fire at 1100...which is far more terrible...

and beraters gotta berate...

Imho: hand is played fine. (And welcome to the forum)

the line is fine given your stacks sizes. You might consider what you have done if the flop Qh Jh 3s. Would you have still shoved your stack?

this.

you basically have one pot sized bet left. He almost always has aces here and it is going to get in, so who cares if you makes a slightly out of line bet. this hand is a no brainer.

this. but checking is fine too

Hand is fine. Since when is a 120% PSB All-In bet a bad idea in a 4b pot? (serious)

Tell everyone who's got a comment that it's your first time playing and you saw it on TV.

What was that Vs? I wasn't paying attention while I was stacking all these chips. Good play now slow play the next one.

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I don't see why you would push. He obviously has a pair pf. You're lucky he had AA and not QQ

wtf people saying open jamming is good, no.

is his calling the 4bet standard with the stacksizes? i would have never even considered that

what do you guys do with other flops like mentioned QJx or Axx or Q52 or J98 etc. etc.

I think it's a great line. Only value you lose is his c bet from qq...

But ak is calling jj is calling and aa is calling... Good shove.. I'd prob check though cause I'm a whore for that extra money from qq

Preflop is kinda gross since we're getting around the threshold where getting in KK is not always good. It's really player dependent, whether you think his 4 betting range includes QQ and AK. Those hands aren't calling a 5 bet so I think calling the 4 bet and getting it in on most boards (sans A hi, still going with Q hi due to combinatorics)

+1, why on earth would you shove and risk folding out anything. 4 bettor is always continuing and likely not folding, but why give him the chance? Pricing out draws is absurd in a 4 bet where draws are a small portion of either range and those hands would get it in anyway.