1k max, 9-handed. About $1200 eff to start.

Main V is loose aggro bad player. Plays too many hands and chases draws. Calls flops light OOP. Calls 3bets super wide. Donk leads all the time. Check-raises people in awkward spots and loves to do speech play. Just kinda that guy who is in nearly every hand and can be a thorn in your side.

There's a $10 straddle in MP from someone posting back in after missing blinds.

HJ good reg opens $35
Hero on BTN with KcKs 3bet to $100
Villain calls $100 quick from BB.
Everyone else folds.

Flop Jc 7d 6d - Pot ~$235
V checks
Hero bets $75
V calls $75

Turn Qc - Pot $385

V checks
Hero bets $175
V calls $175 quickly

River 8s - Pot ~$735

V checks
Hero?

I think there's an argument for a value bet here especially giving he checked to me 3 times. He's also a trappy player and a very loose player who can have a variety of 2 pair hands looking to snap me off. He could easily have called pre and called flop with something like 87cc, 76cc, T9cc although I may have heard from earlier with some of those holdings.

Bet/fold here or check it back and take showdown with our two streets of value?

Thanks

3bet bigger, esp because he calls 3bets super wide. $125ish would prob be standard but could get behind $150+ given player type. Flop bet is fine, turn bet should have been much larger to set up a comfy river shove. Something like $250-$275 would be good. AP I'm still prob shoving, I refuse to bet/fold a hand this strong when we barely have more than a psb left.

Easy x, we ran outta value

Punish the station. 175 and say same bet.

turn bet needs to be bigger, id go $350

as played bet river $200 and fold to a shove

i dont like bombing river, even vs station you only get called by better.

AP, unless you've seen him calling light, I'd X back river.

Pre - with straddle and V dynamic, I'd go larger, $115-120.

Flop - given texture and opponent, I'd go 2/3ish pot for value.

Turn - B/F.

I just don't get why people still downbet against huge stations.. just bet bigger on flop and turn and have an easy shove on the river..

You contradict yourself.. you say he donk leads all the time.. then you say he traps a lot.. so if he really likes to trap with good hands and donk with bad ones the solution is pretty simple or not?

I didn’t play this hand very well. Hence why I posted it. Fair point about V description. Suffice to say I don’t have a great read other than generally fishy LAG who is in way too many hands.

Jc 7d 6d Qc

After quick turn call, V's range (even if very wide) has to narrow to some degree. It's not that he can't have the 78s and weird 2pr's, but you still have to logically assume he's more likely on a flush draw or have a jack which may or may not contain another pair.

As others have commented, if V is flatting 20 BB (10BB with straddle but still $100) with any two, then your sizing needs to be bigger everywhere and you should look to get it in knowing V is going to shank you a small % of the time. That's the beauty playing with these types of players. They win HUGE when they win 20% of the time, but the other 80% they're mucking and giving back to the community.

As played against this V type whom I assume doesn't play draws aggressively, I'm probably checking and taking low variance option expecting to win a good chunk of the time.

3bet to $125 if not $150 next time. Max pain, max value, max position. As played nothing terrible, just missed opportunity and some potential RIO you've set yourself up for giving them such good odds. Btw HJ is not a good reg, I cant imagine anything he opens to 35 and folds to a 3x raise closing the action vs a known whale multi-way with decent position for. He's just bad.

So far love the line you took, now bet river $200.

To keep them being a station. Station doesnt necessarily mean theyre just gonna call off 250BB's every time.

Preflop: prefer to give this V the wrong IO to call me. So I like 125, giving 10-1 IO preflop.

Flop: with the straddle, we are 120eff deep. The downbet is okay deeper. But against this V and with this board, I prefer to c-bet bigger as an exploit.

Turn: we have to size up because the board is just soaking wet. We give him the correct IO to draw here at this sizing.

River: T9 has hit and we are out of value I think. Prefer to x behind even though I realize thin value is usually the dominant concern. The action has compressed him to combos and draws.

I think the turn is the fulcrum decision point and we just need to go bigger.

^ actually upon further review I agree that turn needs to size up big time. I actually want to go for a flat $400 here and then check back river

There's a straddle and it's a 3b Pot.. so its not 250bbs and spr is not that high (actually good).. and my experience is that stations don't adjust.. especially not if you show them a bluff once in a while