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Originally Posted by Fish Taco
I'm perfectly fine with him folding his weaker hands because we are OOP and only have AK. I just don't like flatting because now we are playing oop in a hand where we gave up the lead. I also think it helps us define his range a bit more because to me he has a wider range than QQ. What happens when we hit an K high flop and he has AA and then we lose 160bb pot?
Are you taking into the whole dynamic of the straddle? Have you ever played with a straddle?
So do you treat all unknowns that 3bet as QQ+?
You're fine with him folding Ax and Kx? Him putting money into the pot with weaker Ax and Kx is how we make money. If he has AQ and we flat and flop comes Axx we are winning a big pot. If we 4bet we lose that opportunity and only isolate ourselves vs a range of KK+.
We should be 4betting either for value as a bluff. The reasons you described for 4betting are basically to find out where you're at. That's not a good reason to raise.
If his range is wide and his continuing range vs a 4bet is narrow (this is what you said you perceive his ranges to be) then I'm willing to lose a 160bb pot when its AA vs AK on a Kxx flop. Because a lot of the time we'll stack him when he has KQ or stack him when its Axx and he has AQ/AJ
Yes ive played a lot with btn straddles.
I feel that the majority of live players don't 3bet without QQ+ so yes, until I see evidence thats basically what I range people when they 3bet for the first timr