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2/5 AK, top top gets raised 2/5 AK, top top gets raised

08-29-2011 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by abgtr
Yoda, stop trying to stack off with tptk/one pair. just stop it man.

You so aggressively advocate for it all over this forum.

Look at livegrinder's range assessment. Do you disagree with it? The math is the math. You can't say his range is draws/AQ only here man.
I only advocate it when it's correct to stack off. Here, I'll admit it's pretty close but I think his range is something like:

AKo, AK, AQo, AQ, AX, 1010, 77, A10, A7, 89, KQ, KJ, QJ, J9

We have 42.717% equity and we need only 38.31% equity or higher to profitably put all the money in. So like I said, it's close but not committing here is a slight mistake.

How is that an inaccurate range? That's a super tight range assuming no bluffs. If villain is really loose/bad this could even be as weak as A9o. Giving too much credit to people's raises and bets is one of the most costly mistakes you can make in poker. Ship flop (if you were committed and the board was drawless, you could flop and get it in on the turn).
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08-29-2011 , 08:08 PM
Kinda going off of what livegrinder said... This entire discussion I think is hinged on what we think OP's perception of the term "Asian Gambler" is and what image semi-reg and playing for lulz is. To me "Asian Gambler" means hyper aggro and is non stop getting out of line. If he is closer to TAG, then this is a total different discussion all together and I think that is where you can be on either side of this. That's why I stated at beginning:

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Originally Posted by Jediburke
This hand just depends on how loose you feel this guy is playing and nobody here knows that because they haven't been playing a couple hours with him.
I'm going with a feel play here vs. being technical.
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08-29-2011 , 10:54 PM
In regards to Villians range

I didnt think there were any bluffs in his range, but his flatting range is extremely wide, I think he can have a lot more heart combos than previously mentioned (weak kings and queens). Is he raising weaker aces? hard to say here but I think hes still going to be raising AK/Q/J type hands as well as he strikes me as the player who 'doesnt want to let too many people in' and can def overvalue top pair, but would he against my strong cbet? Thats why I'm here I guess

He's def raising TT preflop, probs flatting his aces and 77's

Throw in some random JJ/QQ hands to 'see if I had the ace'
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08-30-2011 , 01:31 AM
come on grinder`s pf range that he threw into stove is way way way way too restrictive

aq and aj show up here tons

random garbage too

i`m not saying stack off here, but i probably call and stack off on a good turn

i get shown way too much garbage in this spot to fold here
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08-30-2011 , 05:48 AM
I think the real key here is he is doing this with so many players in the hand. I fold and wait for a better spot.
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08-30-2011 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by The Detonator
In regards to Villians range

I didnt think there were any bluffs in his range, but his flatting range is extremely wide, I think he can have a lot more heart combos than previously mentioned (weak kings and queens). Is he raising weaker aces? hard to say here but I think hes still going to be raising AK/Q/J type hands as well as he strikes me as the player who 'doesnt want to let too many people in' and can def overvalue top pair, but would he against my strong cbet? Thats why I'm here I guess

He's def raising TT preflop, probs flatting his aces and 77's

Throw in some random JJ/QQ hands to 'see if I had the ace'
Well if he's the type of player that raises underpairs for info then its a pretty clear stack off.
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