A couple ep limpers, i make it 25 with A,Qo in MP. Get 3 callers, onw in lp and tbe two limpers. Hero has been playing a TAG game and is up about 150. Effective stacks just under 500.

Flop is As,8h,5h. Hero has no hearts. Checked to hero who bets 65. Only one caller, the first ep limper. Villian is new to table, he is waitng for a 5/10 game and he has done a lot of limping so far.

Turn is a Qd. Villian checks to hero. Hero bets 125 and gets crai for 260 more.

Should hero have bet turn, should hero call now?

you gotta bet turn to get value from Ax hands and flush draws. 5s and 8s most likely check raises the flop due to the flush draw. get it in. feel good about it.

played fine, now call. pretty straight forward spot. folding top 2 vs an unknown is pretty lol

Yeah especially given the fact that these stakes are low for him as he is awaiting the 5/10 game. I would imagine he is capable of a little bit of spew since its "lower stakes". Also factoring in the stack sizes are just south of 100bb. Fist pump, just don't be shocked to see 55 and 88 sometimes.

^^ what he said. Weird spot though but you're likely ahead of most villain range. But occaisionally 55 or 88. Lol to ever fold.

Yeah, now I think about it, looks like WA/WB and most like wb unless villain lost his mind or flopped 2 pair

I think you do have to call here and this is pretty standard. But I won't be surprised to see 88 or 55 here a lot. But also you'll see A5 and A8 to even AK depending on villain I suppose. So we do have to call. I find flush draws less likely to wait to the turn to check raise all in but once in a while you'll see something like 67 or 64. You definitely have to call but this smells like a set to me. I usually lead with my set so I don't play them this way generally OOP, but lots of people like to trap with them this way so I wouldn't be surprised to see it. Since we beat a lot of two pair hands and AK and the like, we have to call this, even with sets in villain's range.

Thanks guys. I called and hoped that he had worse two pair or a strangely played flush draw. I called and got shown a set of 8s. I still think I had to bet the turn with the flush draw out there but if I was deeper than I think we can justify checking back and calling most rivers.

no

So would you bet, bet, bet or b,b,c?

Depends on stack sizes; play one out and we can decide. For 250+ bb's I am betting flop and betting turn with a possibility of folding turn to a raise.

IT DEPENDS.

Nothing in poker is black/white.

There are times when you need to fold T2P and times when TP is a snap get it in. I don't know how hard this is to realize.

The OP is so ridiculous, if I was your friend, I'd get mad at you for wasting my time with a bad beat story.

For the number of times villain has 88/55, he also has A8/A5 and or Q8 and there are a ton more times (because of the number of combos) he has A8/A5 compared to 55/88.

I agree, well put

Ridic? Come on now. I called, told villian he had a nice hand and then moved on. Was just wondering if anyone would of played it differently, especially if deep.

Ffs u have top two get it in

- 740 in pot, 260 to call.
- villain is waiting for bigger game and active
- many draws are possible, but no straight or flush is there yet.
- you have top two pair

It is possible to discuss the earlier action in the hand, but I'm pretty sure that it is completely ridiculous to consider folding at this point.

1. You were absolutely correct to bet the turn, because:
a. There are draws you want to deny a free card to
b. You can get called by worse (worse TP, worse 2pr that chose not to c/r flop)
c. Villain c/r his sets OTF at least some of the time.

2. You should call now because stacks are shallow enough for you to be comitted given that a) you beat some worse 2-prs that take this line for value some of the time b) villain only is likely to have 6 value combos (88/55) c) villain raises those OTF at least some of the time d) villain could be semi-bluffing with a flush draw

+1 This is the kind of logical thinking that, when done in the moment, will help you make better decisions. OP don't be results oriented...you did it right.

Lots of draws, and he may just have a weird 2 pair. Don't fold. It sucks if he has a set, but it sucks worse if you fold the best hand. If you call and your wrong you've only got $265 behind which is what you risk because what is in the pot is no longer yours. If you fold you lose $100 pre + $130 flop + $250 turn = $480 plus his $260, so $740 which is almost 3-1. Folding you lose $740, calling you lose $260, def call, you win this atleast 1 outta 3 times, if not more.