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04-01-2024 , 07:38 PM

Imjustrunningbad

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Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 679

V: very good pro. Can be laggy at times. Puts me in tough spots a lot. He covers

I think he views me as okay overall but knows I fold a lot

I have 800 to start

V opens HJ to 20 I call in cutoff with Ac10h think it should be a 3! Or fold probably mostly a fold but V opens a ton of hands in the HJ sometimes a lot of trash to like 2s4s etc

Others fold

(40) flop AsQs3c
V bets 30 we call

(100) turn Qd he bets 100 we call

(300) river 8d

He bets 450
We hate it…

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04-01-2024 , 08:00 PM

Playbig2000

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11,411

I'm never calling pre, I'm either folding if I think his range is strong or most likely 3betting, especially vs a pro. This guy's range is an auto 3bet, I'm hardly ever calling there if ever.

Since I called pre, I would just fold the turn at this point. He knows we have a lot of aces, and seeing how much he bet ott only shows how much better it would of been to fold on the turn.

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04-01-2024 , 08:08 PM

curdanol

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Join Date: Jul 2022 Posts: 423

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Originally Posted by Imjustrunningbad

V: very good pro. Can be laggy at times.

V opens HJ to 20 I call in cutoff with Ac10h think it should be a 3! Or fold probably mostly a fold but V opens a ton of hands in the HJ sometimes a lot of trash to like 2s4s etc

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No reason to get involved with a very good pro with a marginal hand.

If you're 3-betting just to take down his raise & the blinds, it really doesn't matter what your hand is. If you're planning on playing a pot, AT is too easily dominated by his calling range. I'd prefer a hand like A4s to ATo if you're going to play a pot.

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04-01-2024 , 08:22 PM

hyperknit

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Not a fan of preflop

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04-01-2024 , 10:01 PM

NittyOldMan1

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Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,489

fold pre

fold the turn. you beat no value hands, which means that vs a tough pro you are basically donating if he chooses to own you on the river. nobody with a brain is betting worse on this turn than AT unless its a pure bluff. a good pro knows he owns this board and can do what he wants.

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04-01-2024 , 10:49 PM

submersible

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Join Date: Jul 2021 Posts: 1,615

dont understand pre. even if you think hes opening too much your hand plays much better as a 3b than a call. river i guess fold, turn is probably a mix when he sizes up

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04-02-2024 , 11:43 PM

docvail

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Join Date: May 2023 Posts: 1,552

3B or fold pre. That changes everything.

If you just call pre, and flat call flop, you have to raise turn.

Like, have to. Not should. Must raise.

Otherwise, what the serious f**k are we doing flatting pre, and calling flop? Why are we here, with ATo, on an ace-high, paired board, if all we're doing is letting V realize his equity or take us to value town?

For God's sake man, raise pre, or raise turn. Show some aggression before arriving on the river with top pair, crap kicker, zero clue.

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04-03-2024 , 12:10 AM

hyperknit

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Originally Posted by docvail

Why would we raise turn IP with a bluff catcher?

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04-03-2024 , 12:15 AM

docvail

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Originally Posted by hyperknit

Why would we raise turn IP with a bluff catcher?

Why are we calling pre, calling flop, and calling turn, with a hand that was probably 2nd best pre, and 2nd best on the flop, and probably still 2nd best, when a raise might actually get V to fold something better?

Is the plan to simply call pre, call flop, call turn, and then fold to V's over-bet on the river, or call the over-bet, or raise, turning our hand into a bluff? What exactly is our plan to win this hand? At what point do we actually TRY to win?

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04-03-2024 , 12:46 AM

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acescracked84

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,620

Fold pre, fold turn. Villain's not good if he is raising 42s in hj either, just a sun running fish most likely.

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04-03-2024 , 07:33 AM

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Man of Means

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Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,113

3bet or fold preflop. If the plan was to catch a pair and get to showdown you see how that can go. But as the 3bettor he would have had to fear you have nutted hands on this board.

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