I'm UTG with AA and raise $30 with $1,300 behind. folds to button who has $1,500 behind and raises to $90. (he's omc). SB 4-bets to $225 and has about ($500) total behind.

Hero ?

I just 5-bet to get it in against the SB (he should essentially never be 4-bet-folding here.)

We’re too deep to get cute against the Button, particularly Out Of Position—we can’t offer him that sweet of a price to set mine.

Raise to 525, it will look to the button that you're trying to isolate the SB, hopefully the button will jam, but he'll most likely just fold if he has AK, maybe call with QQ/KK but flatting for me is out of the question since we'll be OOP vs the bigger stack. I wouldn't even think of trying to flat and hope the button raises, just raise now and if he folds you'd be HU all in with the SB.

Getting it all-in preflop in a 250 BB pot heads-up with AA is like a top 2% outcome.

Everything < AA is folding to a 5b in this config unless your opponents are knuckledraggers which is quite possible at live 2/5

So act accordingly

The SB just 4bet half his stack, he's not going anywhere most likely and if UTG folds, so what it's still better than slow playing aces 3 ways OOP.

No he didn’t


225 and 500 remaining isn’t half

it's half his stack as far as I'm concerned. 45% is close enough. The point is he's not likely folding to a raise whether he beet 45% or 50% of his stack.

It isn’t 45% either

Sounds like he had 500 "total" (not "more"). If not, people still don't usually 4bet that much and fold.

I think 5b is a mistake (Unless your image is very aggressive) - I tank call the $225 and hope the BTN back jams.

Even if he doesn't - and just calls - you are getting 15% of your stack in pre and it's only a disaster if he has AK that doesn't 5b which we heavily block.

in most 2/5 games i've played - any time you get a 5b it's AA 90%+ of the time and maybe AKs or KK. You should only 5b if you are capable of 5b bluffing with A5s or the table is on massive tilt.


Also what the world is going on with a 6x open from UTG? That just screams strength and I don't think i'd 3b a 6x open from a reg very often, but maybe these guys don't notice?

SB 4-bet $225, and only has $275 behind (for a total of about $500 give or take $30). I don't know anyone that is folding 40% - 50% pre $225 with only $275 more to call.

But that really isn't my question though. I'd say 99% of the time, SB will call a shove....

My question is the button and how to best extrapolate maximum value from button....

In order to property play it the best way we can we would need to know more about the button and his 3betting range specifically. Of course the SB's pretty much irrelevant in our decision since he's not likely folding and probably has JJ+. If the button's been 3betting a lot or light, he's most likely folding if we flat anyway and if the SB has jacks and there's a Q K or A otf, we just left half of his stack on the table.

I mean, you obviously know the answer is to just call. The only question is whether that risk is worth the gamble. Out of position and deep, I don’t think it is.

You have a chance to get it all-in as at least an 80% favorite in a 200 BB pot. That’s a fantastic result with AA—I’d take it!

You're going to look strong anyway even if you just call the cold 4bet from OMC. Button isn't going broke with AK here unless he's an idiot. In fact he probably only calls pairs worse than QQ as a setmine. You could just jam and hope he has KK, or just call and try to avoid having your Aces cracked. If the board comes King high and OMC jams, presumably you're calling?

Interesting spot.

I don't like flat calling with AA, giving the OMC a great price to try to out-flop us when we're OOP. I understand the fear that a 5B jam looks too strong, and the OMC will just assume we have AA and fold.

But...what is the OMC 4B'ing that he's folding? Is he folding KK? AKs? If he's an OMC, he probably thinks the rest of us are maniacs who'll jam wide here. If he 3B over a UTG raise, he obviously likes his hand.

The SB's 4B to $225 was $135 over the BTN's $90 bet. So if we min-clicked it, that would be $360 ($225 + $135), leaving SB with enough stack depth that it would re-open the betting if he jammed ($500-$360 being $140).

I'd just raise to $360 here. The BTN may think we're just trying to isolate with a not-all-that-strong hand. Maybe he'll spaz-jam with JJ-KK or AK to push us out.

If he can do the math himself, he'll see that the SB re-jam will re-open the betting, so he'll have to think about whether he wants to flat-call our 5B and possibly fold if the SB 6B jams and we 7B re-jam, or if he just wants to get stacks in now and hope we call with a worse hand, or hope that we fold a hand that might out-flop him.

Maybe he doesn't realize the SB jam will re-open the betting, and he flicks in a loose call for another $270 above the $90 he already put in. There would be $675 in the pot when action gets to him, so what's another $270 when we still have $1k behind?

If we min-click it to $360, I'm expecting the SB to just push the rest of his stack in, at which point, if the BTN hasn't already jammed over our 5B, we can just stick the rest in, and not worry about what the BTN wants to do. We'll have already extracted $360 in dead money from him, which may have to be enough.

If the SB jams and we re-jam, the pot will be $2160, with another $800 more for the BTN to call. At that point, he'll either fold or call, and we're not worried about which it is.

Just make sure the SB has at least $495 left before we make it $360. Otherwise, I think I just jam, and pray the BTN can't find the fold button.

$465 dealer.

I’d click it to $350-375. Worst case you GII vs. SB.

Calling is not terrible if you want to go the FPS route because the SPR will be 1.6x and you are committed absolute the worst possible flop like KQJ or KKQ or something.

What is Hero's image? What is the player profile for SB? I am most interested in how SB plays postflop as the aggressor in SRP, 3bet pots, and 4bet pots.

What riveting content youre creating.


Otth, you gotta 5!, the $525 behind BB is guaranteed to go in PF and not if it makes it to a flop (like KK folds if an A comes, AK folds if its all low). OMC will never 5! Unless he also has AA, but may call if he has exactly KK:

Just jam and stack the SB whos definitely getting it in and dont worry about trying to suck in the OMC. Maybe he has KK and wont be able to find a fold anyway.

Thanks everyone for the replies/comments. Actual hand - I just flatted and button called. My aces didn't get cracked. SB had QQ, Button folded on the flop.

But I strongly believe the min-click preflop was the best EV play here. I jam and button most likely folds here, and I'm a greedy mother fu5ker and I want button money, not just 100BB from SB and 20BB from button...

3 bet range on Button - I don't have it/I never saw any of the 3 bet showdown hands. But he's just really tight/nitty, so I'm guessing his 3bet range is AQ/JJ minimum

errr...SB is irrelavent here....

The min click looks fishy AF to a lot of people, and can induce a lot of bad play. It's an underutilized tool. I can't remember ever folding to a min click.

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Flatting is fine.

Hitting them with the speech play focusing in on SB and his stack. $500 raise also yields

If you never talk that’s not going to work.