2/5 south FL monday night 6 handed

v1 (400 eff) younger white male loose. frequencies on all actions too high. attempts to steal pots post, calling too much, showing bluffs frequently. prefers to call rather than raise. ive played with him for 3-4 hours
v2 (600 eff) is a 40-50 asian male who is stereotype asian gambler imo. already been stacked once. has double flatted opens / cold 3bets multiple times. been at table for 40 mins
H (2100) late 20s white male, hoodie up. not sure of image tbh, shown down winners all day. i have the biggest stack at the table

UTG fold, V1 in HJ open 15, CO fold, V2 on BTN flats

H in SB black AA raise to 60

BB fold

both V call

flop (180) 6s5d3c
H bet 60
MP call
BTN raise 310
H action

not the most interesting spot but I wanted to post to ask about what I should be doing on this flop texture multiway OOP ?

Also curious about how V1 impacts my action. I think 66 & 55 will be represented. I dont know about 33. the two combos of 65s. I doubt 65o or 63s.

I beat 77-TT, maybe even premium pocket pairs from v1 or v2 i thought the 3bet freq pre was very low from both players they preferred to pop off post. acceptable equity vs V2 straight draws maybe 78s, or a pair + draw

thoughts on sizings / strategy heuristics appreciated thank you,

Pretty sick spot. No point is just calling here, I think it is a jam or fold spot. You say V2 is a gambler, so I think there will be a fair amount of 4x in his range as well as 87s. But he can have sets, 2pair, maybe even 74s or 42s for the straight, but I think straights are mostly discounted. I think I would just jam as played.

Going just 60 is a mistake preflop. 60 would be okay without a caller in between. I would go at least $75, maybe $85 pre.

My inclination is to check flop. You're out of position multiway. They can have all the sets and 65s very easily. But then again, I am not sure you will be able to get away from it at any point when the SPR is this low. An open ender will go with it if you 3bet jam the flop, but they may end up checking on later streets if you check now and you miss value. But if they take the line 1/3 pot flop, 1/2 pot turn, jam river, it is going to be hard to get away. It would almost have to check one street and then you get jammed on on the river with 4 to a straight on the boat or something like that for you to get away from it. So overall, I don't mind just going with it on the flop.

always tempted to bet 0 on the flop and go for xr with this configuration / board / hand

That 3-bet pre-flop is too small. You easily can be in 4 ways with that small of a raise. You ended up 3 ways. I'd raise 90 here. That will ideally get you heads up or you collect the $45 in the middle.

That flop is a horrible flop for AA. V1 impacts your action in that he's acting after you if you decide to call the large re-raise.

Personally, I'd fold here. You can call the overbet raise, but then what are you going to do if the V1 calls or raises? Calls, it's a $1200 pot. V2 has ~240 left so that's going in. All you have is a pair and even if you improve, you might be beat.

Raise more OOP pre-flop. Be able to fold aces.

What ended up happening?

i hemmed and hawed about it openly which was a mistake i need to be more disciplined.

this hand in the moment was about the villains. both of these players were playing so wide & the triple flat from V1i thought capped him significantly. I had been playing with V1 for several hours while I crushed the table. V2 was new & there to gamble.

this isn’t how I want to develop as a player since its results oriented & playing with emotion so I posted the hand. I honestly expected to lose but after my tank I didn’t care & conceded to paying it off.

i jammed over the raise v1 folded and v2 calls. runs out 6s5d3cTcQh and i scoop. V2 did not show. he leaves and the other deepstack at the table racks up immediately to give you an idea of the table dynamic. I racked up as well and the game broke. i talked to the other deepstack player in the cashier line who was a reg & he knew V2. I asked if he thought it was a lower PP but he was sure it was a draw or a pair + draw holding. which concerned me because 74s, 42s, 63s is firmly in this players range

so i agree gotta bump it up pre 75-90

Well played.

this middle aged lady lady in seat 6 who doubled flatted AhQh in the CO & called off her stack to an AK all in on a TT7 flop said “ it took him that long to call !? what was he thinking about ?! “ south FL is a special place im here too

For 120bb.....I'm just ripping it here.


Too many draws and overpairs that will take this line at LLSNL.


And the stack size makes it trivial. Just jam and move on to next hand regardless.

Bigger preflop make it 80 or so

I'd go bigger on the flop as well, even multiway. Very happy to get the money in at 100BB deep on this board which is semi wet but not one to make you quake with fear. Vs the raise it's a jam over the top but my flop cbet would have been at least 100 into a pot of 240 so the button would just be a jam

Don't tell people to give results after only a few people have commented. Let others comment before they see what happened.

Super easy jam on flop based on villain descriptions. You'll occasionally run into monsters but V2 is absolutely loaded to the gills with weak overpairs and pair+draw type hands that you're either slightly ahead of or have dominated.

As others have said, 3bet more pre, 75 minimum.

As played, jamming flop against this villain type as we can expect to see worse a good portion of the time. Also, V1 shouldn’t effect our decision with these stack sizes.


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It’s an interesting spot IMO.

Make it 75 pre.

If they have a set/two pair it’s a cooler

Against these stack sizes I don’t see what else you could do except ship it and feel okay with the results

Against better players you could range check the flop.

Sizing seems okay on the flop when you bet.

Yeah seems very standard.

If you make it bigger pre then stacking off becomes even more appealing. This board is ripe for a nice crai on flop. If it checks around they might go from drawing deadish to top pair, or they can call your delayed cbet with 99 or whatever.