V is 20s ran like 2400 down to 1100 in past two hours with a lot of open, cbet, c/f river type hands, or call call fold. Has played like 45% pre with prob a quarter of those as opens to 4.5x straddle (this game has a player who dumped 12K and another who's run 500-4K playing maniacally, avg stack is like 250bb so e might consider it a 5-10).

Hero is unknown, showed down two AI hands, QQ and KK first was overlay to dry flop, gii against whales TT, other one I stop ngo slags flop bet, bet turn get shipped on and KK full is good against whatever air he had.

1200 eff, I cover

V opens to 20 in a rare unstraddled pot, I 3! Small over one caller to 60 with AA, V flats limper folds.

Flop (160) J96r

I lead 115, V flats.

Turn (390) 8c, fd

I lead 225, V ships 1025.

We...

Based on your description, he seems more passive on later streets. Based on that, I think he rarely has a single pair here. No need to stack off deep. A better spot will surface.

fold

Fold.

Your description of villain postflop seems to be, ABC straight forward. One pair hands are rarely good here.

too many combos of hands beat you. Worst he has here is a hand like T with a pair.

You are too deep to call this off. That turn card really sucks.

How has this V responded to 3 bets?? What is his range?? Having trouble ranging him on hands but think he would've put a small raise in on the flop if he hit that board somehow. Think there's a strong case for him having TT (or pair+draw) given how hand played out and raise size. V is on tilt...if he was playing more ABC and hadn't just gone thru $1300 then more apt to find a fold.

Does V really play a flopped set this way?? Would he call a 3 bet with QT in position?? Need more info on V but if answers are no then could find a hero call in this spot. 89s is the only other hand I might put him on that you're behind.

Also, OOP on loose table I'm probably 3 betting to $70-80.

3bet too small with AA. A lot of players want to 3b light pre to induce a weaker hand to call, but that just ends up putting you in a sticky situation like this on the turn or river. I'm completely happy with taking down the blinds/limps with AA. If someone wants to play with me when I have AA then they better have a good enough hand to call a heavy 3bet. At least then it narrows their range and gives your AA a higher chance of holding up.

J/9/6/8 board is def not shipable for AA, you are never ever ever good. What would ship on this turn and more importantly what out of the range do you beat? The only range which ships here that you can beat are J/T, 9/T and they're still live

If player is ABC then we can assume that AJ,QQ would have reraised on flop, KK would have 4b you on pre flop. Most of the time he's going to turn over at least 2pair, but most commonly Q/T or a set.

When rec players raise you on the turn 1 pair is almost never good. Definitely not if you have a TAG image, probably not even with a LAG image.

fold. suppose he could have air, but more likely, you're up against a range than includes made straights, lots of two pairs, possibly Pair+FD, Pair+SD at the bottom of his range.

think your equity against even a tilter's range is pretty low given the board.

Biggest leak you mention in his game is that he's calling crazy wide pre, 3-bet larger for that sweet, sweet value.

Any history on his reaction to 3-bets? With stacks being so deep and him being as laggy as he is I'm guessing we can't narrow his range much pre.

He call/call/folds too much, so I like our bet/bet line. Sizing looks good as well.

Not sure what 2 pair hands we're worried about, 89 I guess. QT makes some sense, but with the board being so dry I can't imagine him shoving here with the nuts. Does the Jack contribute to the flush draw? This looks excruciatingly like a pair+draw or some super juicy combo draw. He probably never has air here. JTs,ATs,9Ts type hands.

If our ace gives us a blocker to the flush and the J isn't one of the flush cards I don't hate calling here. I also don't love GII deep without at least some type of redraw to a nut-ish hand.

800 into 1640 isn't awful. If he's been hemorrhaging money we might be able a better spot, so I don't hate folding.

I want to call so bad, but probably a sigh fold.

Yeah so this is one of those reverse hh's where actual V ended up tank-calling without Ac, I had JTcc. Didn't know whether it was a good bluff, consensus seems to be yes.

Your image seems to have been the issue....think it's a good bluff when you're viewed as playing solid and winning. When you're viewed as tilting, people will simply call you down lighter.

Against this villain who sounds pretty sticky/OMC-esque I think making this play as a bluff is not great because I don't know that we have much fold equity. Not to say that I don't like the play, I'm not even sure I would call it a bluff given how much equity we have.

I'm fine with hand as played if we think we have some fold equity. I'm also fine with it if we think he is capable of shutting down when one of our 20 outs hits OTR and we want max value.

Had you considered calling and then shipping OTR? We're getting correct odds to draw, would have slightly less than PSB OTR, and based on description "V" sounds kind of station-y.

Wasn't it a rainbow board? Why is Ac relevant?