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2/5 AA facing 179bb crai on flop vs tilted player 2/5 AA facing 179bb crai on flop vs tilted player

08-05-2011 , 05:59 AM
This is from tonights session

2/5NL

Hero: $1300 button LAG
Villain1 $930 mp loose passive is down $1500 and tilted
Villain2 $1200 sb loose passive

I been raising a lot in position and players calling pre flop and then folding to cbet, and they are starting to get annoyed with me taking down pots without any resistance. V1 made a comment to me "what are you raising everytime with".

Utg, v1 limp, I make it $35 from button, v2, bb, mp call. Pot $145.

Flop 862dd

They all check to me I cbet $90, v2 calls, and v1 shoves all in for $895. Pot $1220. It's $805 to me. What is my play?

I put villain1 on either two pairs, flush draw with straight draw combo or flush draw with pair. I didn't have Ad, so very likely he had Ad2d type hand? Maybe set 22, 66, 88 but unlikely I think with set he would of raised but not all in, way to strong. No overpair because he would of raised pre flop. I wasn't worried with v2 he looked like he was going to fold once v1 crai.

So I went into the tank for along time and v1 calls the clock on me. What is my play?

Standard fold? Fist pump shove?

Remember v1 is tilted but i dont think he is the type of player that will bluff 179bb.
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08-05-2011 , 06:06 AM
If you are playing in Florida, you should call putting villain on A8, 99-JJ.
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08-05-2011 , 06:09 AM
You can take out sets. Because he would have been raising for value not to scare you out. He probably has a combo draw and is looking to take down the pot right now. Sick position.

I think you're in front right now but would have to sweat the turn and river if you call. If you're running over the table without having to play this big pot I would lean towards folding. Over the course of the night your aggression will win.
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08-05-2011 , 06:52 AM
Call.
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08-05-2011 , 07:11 AM
Looks semibluffish to me. The fact he called the clock on us makes me lean more towards calling. He could easily have an overpair to the board here as well.
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08-05-2011 , 01:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chohan
If you are playing in Florida, you should call putting villain on A8, 99-JJ.
I am 99% sure he would of raised with 99+ pre flop.
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08-05-2011 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Foldhmmm
You can take out sets. Because he would have been raising for value not to scare you out. He probably has a combo draw and is looking to take down the pot right now. Sick position.

I think you're in front right now but would have to sweat the turn and river if you call. If you're running over the table without having to play this big pot I would lean towards folding. Over the course of the night your aggression will win.
This is basically what I was going to post. In addition, I have also seen people do this with 2pair because they are "scared of getting sucked out on".
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08-05-2011 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Foldhmmm
I think you're in front right now but would have to sweat the turn and river if you call. If you're running over the table without having to play this big pot I would lean towards folding. Over the course of the night your aggression will win.
I was about to blow this up for being a horrible statement advocating folding when you're a big-ish equity favorite, but with live poker this almost makes sense. With how slow the game plays and how long it takes to schlep out to wherever you have to play -- maybe it's +ev to lay down flips and 60/40s for massive all-ins unless you're planning on grinding marathon sessions. Sigh
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08-05-2011 , 03:15 PM
Call he probably has a draw
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08-05-2011 , 03:15 PM
Call. Any chance tilted V1 can be pushing with air to play table sherrif and trying to t"each you a lesson" about being so aggressive? If so, the call gets easier to make.
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08-05-2011 , 03:19 PM
What we have here is a nonbeliever, and we need to preach to him from upon the mount. Give him a sermon, if you will.

I lean towards a call, due to the game dynamics you have described. Ugly spot though, and I have no issue with folding here either.
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08-05-2011 , 03:39 PM
You are flipping against a combo draw, but you are likely ahead at this point. I lean towards call and ride the variance wave, but folding here wouldn't be bad given table dynamics.
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08-05-2011 , 04:42 PM
If you want to flip for stacks then call. If you want to find a better spot, fold.
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08-05-2011 , 04:43 PM
^
you're better than a flip for stacks. about 170 worth of dead money in the pot

Last edited by OneKidForTheTime; 08-05-2011 at 04:53 PM.
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08-05-2011 , 09:47 PM
Fold, Calling is bad here. Thats a dry flop, so paying off villains set is atrocious here. I just lol when I have an over pair and some donk does this.
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08-06-2011 , 05:41 PM
I eventually folded. At the end of the night, when I was leaving villain told me he had two pairs.
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