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09-30-2021 , 08:58 PM

Pork Fri Rize

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8 handed Hero is in BB ($700). MP older unknown guy opens 20 ~($350). CO - loose passive pre with a fairly wide range however is willing to bluff post flop ($600) calls. Hero raises to $95 with AsAd. MP calls, CO Calls

Flop ($285) Qs5s6c. Hero bets $150 MP folds. CO all in $500.

I think he views me on tighter side but this is still always a call, no?

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09-30-2021 , 09:34 PM

AceDeuceSuited

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Noob perspective:

350 to call about 850, I think it has to be a call.

Does he have some 55 and 66 in his range? Sure. I have to imagine he 4-bets QQ.

He also has some AQ, KQ, JTs, 78s, and given how loose he is (per description) could even be doing this with something like 98s or 97s, or even a bunch of combinations of 78o.

The only thing that gives me pause is you block the nut flush draw, so there are a bunch of AsXs hands you would want him to have if you were to call.

I still think the balance favors a call.

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09-30-2021 , 09:35 PM

411Heelhook

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Yep. Also not a bad spot to check with your specific holding.

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09-30-2021 , 10:01 PM

Pork Fri Rize

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Not sure I need to get tricky in this spot so shallow

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09-30-2021 , 10:41 PM

hitchens97

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Originally Posted by AceDeuceSuited

Noob perspective:

350 to call about 850, I think it has to be a call.

Does he have some 55 and 66 in his range? Sure. I have to imagine he 4-bets QQ.

He also has some AQ, KQ, JTs, 78s, and given how loose he is (per description) could even be doing this with something like 98s or 97s, or even a bunch of combinations of 78o.

The only thing that gives me pause is you block the nut flush draw, so there are a bunch of AsXs hands you would want him to have if you were to call.

I still think the balance favors a call.

You mean 3-bet, right? A 4-bet would be a back raise and somewhat unlikely from a loose passive.

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09-30-2021 , 11:30 PM

AceDeuceSuited

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Originally Posted by hitchens97

You mean 3-bet, right? A 4-bet would be a back raise and somewhat unlikely from a loose passive.

Yes, you're right, I meant 3-bet.

V with QQ would have re-raised after the MP open. Not after the Hero's 3-bet from BB.

Point is, that's one set I think we can rule out.

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09-30-2021 , 11:37 PM

kimoser22

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Originally Posted by Pork Fri Rize

Grunch- yeah gotta call here IMO...I might go for a c/jam given stacks and you holding As

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09-30-2021 , 11:44 PM

RobertUCooper

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Stacking off with an SPR of 2 on Q65 is ridiculously standard and you're almost always good, better question is whether to call off if both the MP and CO jam

A good rule of thumb is that if you were planning on jamming blank turns for value then you should bet call the jam on the flop

And as a previous commentator said, I lean to checking the flop but might be too advanced play for OP and obviously betting is fine

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10-01-2021 , 01:00 AM

Pork Fri Rize

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I mean I understand we can check here otf as we really only losing to sets 66 and 55 but given spr which is actually 1.5 :1 for V as mentioned, I want to get stacks In ott and betting otf seems only way to do so. Just gonna rack it up as cooler.

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10-01-2021 , 02:08 AM

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411Heelhook

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It's not "You must do this!" kind of advice, it's just a different idea you can try now and then.

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10-01-2021 , 02:56 PM

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jdr0317

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Originally Posted by Pork Fri Rize

You’re kind of missing why we might want to check IMO.

Firstly, like you said, we can get all in easily. If they bet when you check, you can xr all in. If it goes check check check, someone can turn a pair and give you action. Your holding blocks your opponent’s continues as well. There’s a lot of merit to checking.

AP super easy call off. I can see a fish taking this line with KQ

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10-01-2021 , 03:39 PM

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RobertUCooper

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Originally Posted by jdr0317

Agreed 100%

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Originally Posted by Pork Fri Rize

If you want to get stacks in on the turn then yes, betting flop is the best way to do it, but that shouldn't be your only incentive especially when you can get stacks in by river if flop checks around and you protect your checking range

I wouldn't call betting a mistake but would definitely both bet & check with AA

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10-01-2021 , 11:40 PM

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monikrazy

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Snap call, hand is wp.

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