Reads: Middle aged white guy who is fairly TAG pre flop and post flop. He has not raised much, but I have noticed that he has 3-bet against a raise and a few callers quite a few times, maybe 3 times in the last 2 hours. Other than that, he is probably a little tighter pre flop than the table average. My image is fine, TAG.

Folds to him with 4 players left to act and he makes it $20. CO, button and SB call. I have A2 and call (if it were off suit, if the effective stacks were shallower, or if there weren't already many loose callers, I'd fold pre).

~$600 effective vs villain.

Flop: A85. Checks to V who bets 50 into 100. I'm the only caller. I seriously considered folding flop but the smallish size and my backdoor heart draw kept me in. Anyone fold flop?

Turn: A85J. Check/check.

River: A85J8. Not the worse card because I now chop many ace-X hands. I check, he bets $80 into $200. Hero?

Is he cbetting worse on this flop into 3 people? It's very reads dependent there.

Call river because odds and his line is stupid.
C/r is also an option but I'm confused by what he's repping so I just call.

You're in the BB? C'mon.

What's your plan here?

If your plan is to flop a monster and stack the TAG, think again.

Playing pocket pairs here is OK, because it's not all that hard to get the odds you want (somewhere between 1:8 or 1:20 depending on who you're talking to) and people will sometimes pay off sets because they just don't see it coming. (Especially 22. My favorite hand in no-limit).

But a blind man can see when a fish makes a flush. TAG players aren't going to pay you off. (Remember the "T" stand for "tight"). On top of that, odds of flopping the flush are 118:1. He doesn't have $2360 to give you even if he were inclined to do so.

There's something like a 15% chance of flopping a draw, but that's the TAG's wet dream, to have some fish in EP calling his cleverly-sized cbet with a flush draw.

No! Bad dog. Don't do that any more.

Sorry to ruin your rant, but there are 3 other callers. Pre isn't a slam dunk OOP but it's alright.

Block bet $50 on river. Very rare people will raise river with AQ/AK/bluff hands.

As played, a must call on river.

Preflop is kinda close between all 3 options.

He cked back turn so he shld never have a big A here.... I prob raise river and expect to be good if called or maybe you blow him off a chop...

no you don't

Fold preflop this deep, if you were 1k+ deep I don't hate a call. This shallow, unless there is truly an awful player in the hand, I'd muck it.

Good spot to 3b.

Put me in the fold pre camp. Ifni were to make a loose call oop pre, I check fold the flop. River is close. Probably call aonce you called flop.

Agree with the 3bet.

Surprised that calling can't be profitable getting 6:1 direct and ~40:1 implied from any one persons stacks.
Can you offer a bit more insight on this?

We are oop with a pretty low spr, can't really run some huge bluff, pfr is tight and likely not to pay us off, gonna get coolered more often than we cooler people etc...

His betting range on the flop is wide open and you played A2 so you cant fold when you flop an Ace. Now, what do you think he puts YOU on after the flop check call? Not a draw. Probably not air. So, if he thinks you have an Ace, why would he be giving you decent value to call on the river? Prob because it IS a value bet.

Fwiw I'm never calling the river but it's a good spot to ship imo

Results: I call river, he shows AQo to win.

pre is fine/profitable, 3b could be better but it depends on openers defending tendencies since were essentially going to have an spr of ~1.2 going to the flop if called

you can probably just fold the flop since his range is probably gonna be fairly tight here 5 ways, but calling is not horrible. you can also probably fold the river since hes not going to be bluffing or getting you off a chop too often, but i think this would be a larger adjustment and if you arent sure if he could bluff taking this line then again calling isnt bad vs that sizing.

A good player would frequently check turn here with AQ/AK. He has 1 pair and is playing pot control. It's one of the benefits of being in position. Putting ones self in position to stack off with TPTK is not usually good.

Please learn to fold this pf. Most of your equity is from the flush and you aren't getting paid off if you hit the flush. Let's say you have AK and some guy calls you. The flop comes monochrome and you have TP. You're really going to stack off?

When he bets this flop I expect us to be behind the vast majority of the time. I don't like the call on the flop OOP especially given the stack sizes. I'd like it more in position as we will have more control over the pot size if we increase our equity on the turn and river.

On the river we are generally behind and rarely chopping, so this is a trivial fold.