Maybe a nice simple one for a Monday...


V1 Seems to be playing too many hands, but he might just have had a run of okayish hands as he's not shown anything completely insane. Limping and calling a bunch, and very recently showed AQo (no spade) when it got a river fold vs. KT (V1 as BTN vs. CO) with a call/call/raise line on T85 J x (not 100% on river, it wasn't a spade and I'm pretty sure it wasn't a 6 or 9 type card ... so 432, probably).

Most of the rest of the V's seem at least average, the obviously worst player was on my direct left but slowly went broke and is now gone.


H has about 650, a bunch of players are much deeper including V1.

UTG opens to 20
UTG+1 calls
V1 (UTG+2) calls
HJ or LJ calls
H with 88 on BTN calls
BB calls

Call seems kind of std. but if SB/BB wakes up with giant balls or a giant hand it's maybe bad?

Pot: 122
Flop: 8x2x2
Checks to hero
Hero bets 20
Folds to V1
V1 doesn't think that much and makes it 80
Folds to H
H thinks and... calls?

Should maybe bet a little bigger? I might bet 77/99/TT/JJ here. Not sure how much QQ flats pre. though. Not bluffing air, and while I can get spicy pre. sometimes... at this table right now my only real 2x hand is going to be A2s.
Obviously have 88, and probably 22. So yeh for four combos.

Can obviously see arguments for 3betting flop ... but lol ranges for that on this board, and H is assuming that V1 is mostly pretending he has a 2. But who knows, if he does have A2s here maybe he stacks off?

Flop 3bets feel like my worst node, I feel like everyone folds if I do it for value and if I ever do it with a giant combo. draw they don't fold anywhere near as much. Also I think A2 should snap fold if I do 3bet flop, because I can't think of any draws and probably don't even have K2s even if I'd want to 3bet that.

Pretty much the only runnout I'm ever thinking about folding (or not shoving somewhere) is a 3rd 2.


Pot: 282
Turn: 8x2x2 Q
V1 bets 100
H thinks a bit and calls

Again, not sure if I should raise here ... we probably get rid of all the bluffs and there's few viable worse hands. Kind of hoping for a river A or maybe a flush.


Pot: 482
River: 8x2x2Q 4
V1 bets 200
H thinks a bit (maybe not long enough) and goes AI for 250 more. Feels super strong no matter what I do but I'm not just calling.

Is it me, or is c-r/b/b on this runout weird, when UTG+2 overcalls a 4x UTG open? 4x C-R an admittedly small button bet, then only go 1/3-ish on turn and 40% on a blank river?

Like, what's V's range here? There's a V between you two on the flop he also has to worry about when V C-Rs. What does V think you have? You're both uncapped on this flop, right? I can see a bluff c/r, but to continue betting small on the turn?

It's like V could care less you might have 88 and just wants you to call all the way to setting up a river shove by you. I find it hard to give V much besides A2s here and 22. QQ would be nuts pf, right?

I mean, we're still doing it, at 130bb, I can't fold the 3rd nuts here, and 22 is a cooler. But it's weird.

Looks fine to me.

Looks good to me. Not much (nothing, really) I'd do differently.

Smells like 2x, not quads, from a guy who thinks, "BTN would have to raise 88 pre, so I must be good here."

Looks fine to me.

Results:

Yes, maybe you could bet a little larger on the flop, but your 1/6 pot sizing IP is probably pretty close to theoretically correct when action checks to you in a super-multiway pot, on this dry and low paired board. If you bet too big, you get too many folds and not enough calls or check raises.

Your small bet size seems to have triggered this x/r from V1, who probably thinks you're FOS and just stabbing with air. He might be making this play with his entire range, not having any piece of the board.

I like just flat calling the x/r IP. Let V keep the betting initiative going to the turn. He can keep barrelling, or we can bet if he checks. How amazing would it be if he goes for the rare double check-raise?

The only downside is that we won't be able to raise often or very much if he bets turn small. But what thick value can V have here, taking this line, and betting just over 1/3 pot? Maybe A2, but even A2 is going to get a little suspicious when we're still flat calling. What worse hands would we be repping if we raise here? Q8? Some odd 2X?

Even with the smaller sizing V takes on the turn, his flop x/r helped bloat the pot such that we've got 1 SPR going to the river. He's done all the heavy lifting for us here.

I think you played it fine, if not perfectly.

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I go a little larger on the flop, just to make it a little easier to get stacks in if you get a single caller. That said, your small sizing probably does induce more. Turn and river look good, no need to raise turn, put his A2 to the test on the river.

If the river was checked to you, would you have just shoved or gone a bit smaller?

3 betting pre is perfectly reasonable too, if youre asking if you shouod consider folding, obviously not.

Flop sizing is too small, and i like small sizing on paired boards like this, but you gotta go at least 30 i think

After that, well played, what else can ya do with the effective nuts on a board that dry?