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03-20-2013 , 12:49 AM
Playing 2-5, max buy in is 500, luckily I doubled very first hand with a set. So I'm sitting with like 1k at this point. Main villain in this pot is someone I've played with a bit at a different casino where the 500$ buyin level game was 1-3 with 500 max, most regs from that game are playing the 2-5 here now. He has 1500 or so, not really sure how he got it, he knows me and is talking poker with me, I don't really know much about his game, I assume he is pretty tight.


Here is the hand,

Villain 1 limps utg in straddled pot to 10
Hero raises to 25 with red 66, I raised so the straddle doesn't, with 500 buyin, straddled pots are a real bitch, and make playing hands way harder.
2 callers, and straddle and villain calls.

Flop 125$, 6s4sQx
Checks to me, I bet 80, folds to villain, who calls

Turn 285$ 6s4sQx 8x
Villain bets 125, hero?
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03-20-2013 , 12:50 AM
Keep in mind I started hand with ~1k and villain covers.
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03-20-2013 , 01:33 AM
I wouldn't mind playing for stacks. I'd make it 350, and call a shove. If he rolls over 88 or 57, good for him
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03-20-2013 , 02:06 AM
i'd probably just limp along here from ep unless you size it much larger.

i wouldn't be worried about the straddler raising since if a there a bunch of limpers after you and the straddler raises, you can expect the call train to begin which significantly increases your implied odds post flop.

If you are the first to raise you will probably decrease the amount of players seeing the flop while paying a similar price, and you are pretty much hoping to flop a set regardless if it is going multi way.

raising this turn all day. bet looks sort of blockish, so lets bump it up to at least 300-350ish which can set us up to shove river.
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03-20-2013 , 10:18 AM
grunch: raise

pot it. only 57 or a better set beats you right now. but there is a flush draw there. raise $400 or so to leave yourself with a normal river shove amount. i wouldn't even mind just shoving now... if player is thinking, he may be more likely to call the turn then the river with any hand you beat.
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03-20-2013 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by similar 2 2 2
I wouldn't mind playing for stacks. I'd make it 350, and call a shove. If he rolls over 88 or 57, good for him
this.
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03-20-2013 , 10:45 AM
I limp pre. no point setting a price when you have a hand that plays well multiway and is easy to play post flop.

As played, I make a raise to 300 for value. If he calls your SPR will be less than 1 going into the river and you get a lot of value from the draws.
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03-20-2013 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 85chickasaw
grunch: raise

pot it. only 57 or a better set beats you right now. but there is a flush draw there. raise $400 or so to leave yourself with a normal river shove amount. i wouldn't even mind just shoving now... if player is thinking, he may be more likely to call the turn then the river with any hand you beat.
honestly i think raising this much allows villain to get away from marginal hands that he may take this line with. Obv i think we are raising here all day but with these stack sizes i think we can get away with a smaller sizing that still allows us to make a normal shove on river.
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03-20-2013 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Superman1
honestly i think raising this much allows villain to get away from marginal hands that he may take this line with. Obv i think we are raising here all day but with these stack sizes i think we can get away with a smaller sizing that still allows us to make a normal shove on river.
yeah you're probably right. suppose our own image would have to be considered as well. raise at least enough to give improper odds to a flush draw, but can probably go smaller.
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03-20-2013 , 02:35 PM
I think I call this. I am having trouble finding worse hands that call a raise. His block bet hands are like a Q and maybe fd. At which point he likely folds to a turn raise.

If he is betting for value then I got him for 88, 75, and maybe AsQs. But 75 most likely. Sure, he could have 44. Problem with him having 44 is that it is a strange line for 44. I would have expected a cr on the flop.

Feels like the most value is from calling and seeing river. If a non-club hits and he checks, you make a big bet repping missed fd. Maybe you get paid off by Q
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03-22-2013 , 08:08 AM
i'd flat call the turn in position and see what develops on the river.
OOP i'd probably go for a check raise to play for stacks as mentioned before with view to get it in on the turn
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03-22-2013 , 08:33 AM
As played, raise turn to set-up river AI (if called). I'd say $350. You have a huge hand, there are draws on board, try to max value in this spot.

PF - I'd either raise larger to balance, or limp.
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