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10-12-2021 , 05:20 PM

SUYAPA

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Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 769

Hero TAG image 900
Villain 1 loose bad recreational in his 30s. 1k
Villain 2 recreational playing almost any 2 and limping all the time. 250
Villain 3 reg with some big leaks. For example raises ep and calls oop a 3b vs a good player with KJo.

Straddle, player in ep raises 30, V1 and V2 call in mp, hero squeezes to 150 in co with A

, V3 calls otb, ep folds, V1 and V2 call.

Flop (647) K

check check, hero bets 150, only V3 calls
Turn (947) K

hero checks, villain bets 250, hero?

Also not sure about the flop cbet

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10-12-2021 , 05:24 PM

QuantumSurfer

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,987

Check this to the river. Flop bet seems like a big error. SPR's extremely low and it's 4 way.

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10-12-2021 , 07:42 PM

Playbig2000

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11,344

If you have an ep raise to 30 with 2 players calling, one who has only 250 and might decide to jam getting ourselves into a multi player super bloated pot pre, there's no harm in flatting preflop (especially if we're gonne get stuck in these types of situations).

I don't know what V3's stack is but I don't feel too good about getting the majority of my stack in with middle pair here (or pretty much anywhere)

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10-12-2021 , 08:25 PM

Cosmo K

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Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 41

Check flop multiway

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10-13-2021 , 05:00 AM

ChaosInEquilibrium

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Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 3,341

Don’t bet flop multi-way. Your hand doesn’t need protection. Heads-up is a different story because you can bet small and get called by worse (though I still usually check heads-up).

AP on turn you shouldn’t be here with this hand so it’s a weird spot. I guess this is one of the worst hands you’d bet on flop, so, pretty standard fold on turn.

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10-13-2021 , 03:03 PM

SUYAPA

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Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 769

Ya really stupid bet and dont know why I even bet the flop. I guess it was autopiloting without thinking too much.
Hero folded ott thinking it is impossible for villain otb to have bluffs after cold calling a 3b pre with multiple players left to act and calling otf with 2 players behind.

Hero folded and villain showed JJ

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10-13-2021 , 06:22 PM

Amanaplan

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Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 5,628

You don’t have to 3b pre but obv fine. Ck flop normally but AP I think you need to at least consider ckc turn against someone w leaks. It gets a little tricky tbh bc when you do Ckc turn you’re not faring that well against his riv check back range and calling another bet is prob real bad (but he’d have to be running one helluva bluff).

Flop check or just bet again, I’ve seen people shove in this spot ott w this type of hand bc it folds out ranges and provides enough blocking of AK KQ QQ KQ that cold call btn to where it works. AK isn’t an easy call facing bet / shove either.

Maybe that’s ool but it’s better than 3b pre, bet 1/4, ckf

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10-13-2021 , 08:25 PM

Joe-exotic69

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Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 1,302

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Originally Posted by SUYAPA

Vilain 3 is not a reg with some leaks, v3 is a reg-fish

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10-14-2021 , 09:22 AM

SUYAPA

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Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 769

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Originally Posted by Amanaplan

Totally forgot V3 stack size, he had the table covered. OTT I just couldnt find a hand that we beat and thought if I call ott its like calling an allin because we would have 350 left after investing over 50% of our stack. We had 600 ott and pot was over 900. I dont expect him to call JJ, TT or a Q otf. It felt like he was trying to milk me when he bets 250 ott leaving me with 350 for the river.

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10-14-2021 , 04:36 PM

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TheJackhammer

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Originally Posted by Cosmo K

Check flop multiway

Seconded.

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10-15-2021 , 12:21 AM

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Amanaplan

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Originally Posted by SUYAPA

It’s a tough spot but things got out of hand w pot size and it’s just not necessary to bet flop into a guy who called called ur 3b to begin with esp w two rec fish types in the hand ready to punt Kx. You can take a big stab, shut down if called-hope to improve/showdown.

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10-15-2021 , 04:41 PM

#12

SUYAPA

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Originally Posted by Amanaplan

What do you mean with big stab?

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10-15-2021 , 09:27 PM

#13

Amanaplan

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Originally Posted by SUYAPA

What do you mean with big stab?

As in you might choose to include AQ as a hand with which you make a large bet on the flop to end the hand. KQx is a good flop for the 3b - you're allowed to choose larger sizings. Not saying you should do this, but I don't think a smaller bet down to AQ works either unless you intend to continue w it on good turns repping QQ KK and blocking QQ KQ KA. Really, I just mean that if you have to bet, it's bet small+bet again ott OR bet big / end hand otf. IDK, getting lost a little trying to find lines that work better other than checking 2ptk 4 ways in narrow range spots.

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10-16-2021 , 02:51 PM

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SUYAPA

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Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 769

Ok, didnt think you would suggest to bet big with this low spr. I just thought on this flop we can bet really big and really small. Because of the spr I bet small thinking I will take it down most of the time. I mean villain should never reach the turn with his hand.
But when I bet again ott it can only be allin. I was convinced villain can only have AK and that he wouldnt fold. To see JJ was a wtf moment for me.

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10-16-2021 , 04:32 PM

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WereBeer

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Don't like the flop bet. Kind of a chitty situation to be honest but I'm checking and hoping for a free turn. If button bets and anyone else calls, I'm out. If button mashes the pot button, I'm out. Otherwise I guess I call one medium bet HU.

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