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06-15-2023 , 06:43 PM
2/5, 200bb eff, Villain is a good reg, talked w him a bit and found out that he plays NL1K online

Hero opens to 15 from UTG w TdTc, V 3b to 60 from SB, H calls

Flop: 7s3s2c - V bet 40, H call, is this a decent spot to raise/fold?

Turn: 2h - V bet 230, H call

River 6h - V all in, H call

Thoughts? The spot is close, maybe sometimes I fold if I have the Ts
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06-16-2023 , 03:27 AM
If villain is playing NL 1K online, Ts is not a bad card to have at all on the river. He wants to be bluffing hands without spades, hoping you have spades. You should mainly fold TT with the Ts on the turn though.

River the solver has you mainly fold, but calling sometimes to prevent being exploited.

You are facing a pot sized shove, right? So he needs to be bluffing once for every value bet for you to be good here.

The question is, does villain overbluff here? I think k he had 18 combos of value with AA, KK, QQ. He probably had Ah5h, Ac5c, Ad5d, maybe A4s no spade. That is only 6 combos. And actually, he is not supposed to bluff the A5s and A4s as much on the river. More hands like AKs no spade, all combos of KQ, with or without spades, some AKo no spade.

You actually should have a lot of KK here, calling KK all combos, QQ mixing folds, preferring to have a spade, which makes sense why KQ is a pure bluff, even with spades.

If I am villain, I probably don't give you KK as often, so maybe I find more bluffs with Qx. AxQs makes some sense. Maybe QJs blocking both QQ and JJ. He needs about 9 combos of bluffs here. Maybe a little more because he could have touches of hands like 77, 66, 54.

Definitely calling KK if you ever have it. QQ you should probably call too.

I think I lean towards folding the TT, but vs this villain, it might make sense to randomize and call sometimes. If you always call TT here, villain may well adjust and underbluff these spots to exploit you and just go for max value with over pairs on low boards.
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06-16-2023 , 04:32 AM
Thank you for your reply, you are completely right, also ran the hand in the solver this morning.

My train of thought was similar to yours (except for the Ts on the river, now it’s more clear to me why I should have the Ts there, and why I should fold more on the turn).

I called and V showed QsTs.

Btw, could someone explain to me why the solver is shoving all KQ suited combos on the river (in Villain shoes)?
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06-16-2023 , 07:23 AM
He 3 bets QTs from an UTG raise 10 handed from the sb? Seems pretty bad to me , was he on tilt?
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06-16-2023 , 08:07 AM
No **** idea why he did that, but I was also a bit shocked.
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06-16-2023 , 10:57 AM
Playing 1k online is not the same as winning playing 1k online.

What happens often if a player is slumming in what they consider low stakes game, they will try to run over the table. So they'll get very Laggy deciding to put everyone to the test.
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06-16-2023 , 11:42 AM
Once you called the turn, you really can't fold.

Yeah, people love pressing buttons in this game. I see it all the time, both on the table and itt's some times too. And FWIW anyone can play 1KNL online, but whether or not he's winning or losing in it is a different story. His line would be good vs a button open, but not vs an unknown player UTG who's calling him down.
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06-16-2023 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sik3s17
Thank you for your reply, you are completely right, also ran the hand in the solver this morning.

My train of thought was similar to yours (except for the Ts on the river, now it’s more clear to me why I should have the Ts there, and why I should fold more on the turn).

I called and V showed QsTs.

Btw, could someone explain to me why the solver is shoving all KQ suited combos on the river (in Villain shoes)?
Because the solver assumes you won't always 4bet KK pre, so your best calling hands apart from boats and 5s4s are going to be KK and QQ. So 2 overs on the turn, good blockers on the river.

I don't know if his play is necessarily terrible either. In live poker, I don't know how much people are going to just flat KK UTG vs a SB 3bet, so a K blocker may not be that relevant. He blocks QQ and TT. You can still fold some nut flush draws, maybe 99, 88, 87, 76.
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