Hero 500$ 2/5 live

AsJc in HJ

Hero raise to $20, CO, BTN, and BB call

Flop ($82) KsJs2d

Checks to btn, btn bets $40, hero calls.

Turn ($160) 5s

Hero?

BTN seems like a decent reg. Not sure if I should be betting or checking this flop. Seemed like a decent spot to check call. We block KJ and K2/J2 is def not in his range and he would 3bet KK or JJ but we block JJ as well. My plan was to show some aggression on the turn if we improve but idk if it's the right move.

I prefer a bet against loose opponents and a check against tight ones. You hit the flop and have back door straight and flush potential but 4 ways and your OOP against 2 of them. With 3 opponents it's likely somebody has a hand that calls the flop. Against loose opponents there are a bunch of hands worse then JX that stick around, against tight ones somebody probably has a king.

Turn it depends on how btn plays. How many hands worse then JX can he have? Will he bet KX again if you check? Will he bet his bluffs again? Can he be on a draw? Can you fold him off any weak KX if you do bet? If you do bet will he raise with less then a monster hand? In abstract I favor a check on the turn after checking flop but would bet about 1/3 of the time to represent the flush draw.

I think checking flop is good.

Turn I check planning to call most bets, but he should be checking back the turn a lot.

check flop for sure

OTT start with a check, but next action depends on V and all the stuff QuadJ laid out. I really dislike leading here because we will probably be looking at a profitable ck/c if he bets, but we potentially get shut out if he raises. ck/jam looks better as a semi-bluff as well imo.

As helps the argument for xc flop vs bet. As played checking turn and evaluating, leaning fold.

Is this a somewhat good hand to semi bluff raise or jam for pressure? We block so many hands that may feel comfortable calling and we can get better hands to fold

^^^ I think this is a great spot to semi-bluff turn. With us holding the As and the Ks, Js being on board, the only hands that should call are QsTs and Qs9S that have gutshots to the nuts and possibly sets that need to boat up on the river to beat a made flush.

A jam is an overplay IMO as in if you actually had say AsTs you would bet for value. I like $115 which will leave us with a little less than a PSB if V calls with the plan of jamming any river card that doesn't pair the board sans an A or a J.

Any 1 pair, 2 pair and sets likely fold to this line and It puts a massive amount of pressure on QsXs made flushes which is a tiny part of their range anyway.

I think turn is a check/evaluate, but I'm very tempted to check/raise. There is very little he should be able to continue with. I don't think he's folding to a bet on the turn unless we are already ahead, and if we bet turn and are called, we need to follow through on almost every river.

How sticky is V? How does V see you?

Seems like an ideal spot to x/jam to me.

Edit: depending on his bet size, of course

If we want to represent the flush, I don't like c/jamming on the turn. V can reasonably assume some of our flush draws will be leading on this flop. Our hand looks exactly like what it is after check/calling, so when flush comes in on the turn it feels too overplayed to be check raising. C/calling and then bombing river will give your line much more credit if we want to fold Kx. Problem is his range includes more flushes than yours does as he has far more flush draws betting IP than you do checking as the preflop aggressor. I like this hand played as c/c c/c c/f much better as V will need to check behind a lot of rivers and we win a decent percentage of the time.

So we x/c, x/c and x river and when and a big IF V checks we expect to win with middle pair on this board a 'decent percentage?' Your definition of decent must be vastly different than mine. I guess against a super aggressive V you could take this line but you would also need to call the river and not fold.

Not opposed to a crai either if our V cooperates by betting. I just think we have a lot of FE by making a value sized bet when the front door flush comes in and we hold the A of said front door flush,. And the hands that do call are going to have a hard time calling a PSB jam on the river.

This hand functions perfectly as a check/jam. We check because we have showdown value and we beat a lot of Villain's value range. When he bets turn we realize we're behind, and we turn our hand into a profitable semi-bluff. We block KJ, AK, and the nut flush -- we'd be hard-pressed to find a better bluff candidate.

I don't think this is right. First off, if you're betting all flush draws OTF here that's a pretty significant leak. A reasonable strategy here is to check with most of our NFDS, and bet off our weaker flush draws and QTs, and hands like T 9, A Q, A 5. One of the crucial differences in range construction is rooted in the fact that BTN is calling preflop with all his offsuit broadways, whereas we're more heavily weighted toward suited cards in the HJ. This pushes BTNs range more heavily toward 1pair hands like Kx and his stronger Jx. For example he might bet KTo and QJo on BTN given his positional advantage, whereas we only have KTs and QJs in our flop check/call range. He will bet all his KQ, whereas we're rarely check/calling with KQ OTF (instead choosing to bet off this hand). Therefore, his flop betting range is way more heavily weighted towards 1 pair than flush draws versus our check/calling range.

This is an interesting spot. If villain is good, I'd have to give him credit for a rather strong hand. His range should be stronger betting into a multiway pot, unless he's just stabbing at it since nobody else showed any interest.

I should have wrote the line as check/call, check/check, check/decide sorry. My point was that we can expect a check back on the turn for pot control/giving up a decent percentage of the time and in that case we have showdown value. And we fully realize our equity. Depending on the player, we can keep his range still fairly wide after the flop bet. But when he bets turn again, I guess I'm coming around to a check/raise, but that's heavily dependent on sizing.

Agreed on bolded. As for preflop range construction regarded suited cards, appreciate the explanation. I assumed the ranges would be close or a negligible in difference but after looking at some ranges I can't argue.