I dont wanna post this is LSNL cuz the feedback wont be as good. and ill get too many scared money responses like KK+ only

2/5 Mohegan saturday night about half the table is straddling, first orbit

This is the must move but place is packed so its a semi deep game and I've played with most of the lineup before and they view me as a young tag who can play much laggier once the stacks are deeper.

UTG Straddler is a huge whale who l/c's a ton, overvalues TP, coldcalls 15x 3bets with hands like QJo and broadway trouble hands and medium pps even if stacks are shallow.

UTG+1 villian mid 20's, aggro, respects my game but whenever he has position on me likes to pick on me and float me and is semi-annoying to have on my left but not super slag.

The hand:
UTG straddle (~$1200)
UTG+1 limps (~$900)

MP irrelavent

Hero in CO ($600) with XX and raise to 45.
Button and UTG flat
UTG+1 makes it 200 total
one fold

Hero sticks it in with what range? No flatting range obv? Probably quite simple spot? JJ+ AK+

Pretty simple once you have determined utg+1s 3betting range. Doesn't really sound like you've done that though. You basically have like 0 fold equity here, so whatever you perceive as having equity against his range.

Without more info this can't be answered. If your always folding or always shoving JJ and AKo here you will get owned.

There is simply not enough information to determine his range/what he perceives your range to be. Also, there could be some folding equity here, but we'd have to know more about his 4-b calling tendencies...

Against a vill in this spot though I'd like to call w/ my AA and MAYBE KK (you're in pos and have 1 psb to get it in on the flop), and ship w/ my very good hands AK, QQ, JJ.

he views me as pretty lagtarded with a very wide opening range

Then your range needs to be tighter to ship here since he will call you lighter. Given your stack, I was at first thinking 99+, AK and maybe AQ (but probably not), but I think JJ+ and AK is probably better.

Still, as others have siad you really can't define this too much without some idea of his l/3b range. He will be getting over 2-1 to call so I agree that you have very little FE in this spot. Also, meta and history with villain are important. Have you seen him make this play before? How often does he fold to a 4b? How often have you 4b him?

Some might not matter because your stack is small, but still we need to consider all this before stickong it in because a lot of his range has the lower part of our ship range destroyed.

Villain is limp/3betting in a spot where its pretty unlikely all three of you are going to fold. If it happened to fold back around to him and he tried it against you then I'd be liable to jam a lot lighter, but as it is I'd prob just sigh-fold JJ and AK and get it in with QQ+.

Ummh you only got 60bb at the beginning of the hand due to the strattle, "ship it".

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ITs obv ship or fold, im asking what range i should stick it in with idiot

You obviously need to go back to 1/2NL if u are thinking about folding KK for 60bb cux u are playing with scared $$$ vs this aggro villain. This is so standard.

And villain knows you are scared money that is why he picks on you cux u are a weak player.

lol ******ed level, i obviously didnt have kings because i would have snap stuck it in and been ahead of villians QQ. I had JJ here, lame spot.

ah thought villain limped behind the fish then RR you but saw that he limped as first to act after the straddle, this really skews his range to value hands, esp in straddled pots with fish in the straddle,

I prob fold this unless he has ever done anything spewy preflop to make you think he is l/rr with less than QQ+ and maybe AK, if he is good and game conditions sound loose/spewy he shouldn't be doing this w/air considering he is likely to get action from others.

seems like a horrible spot to do this w/QQ as if you shove he cant be too happy about it and may make a bad decision one way or another.

you got 60 bigs and there are whales with 1200 at the table. prob TT+ and AQ+, hope to double up and have a big stack to take the whales money.

Edit: yeah def stick it in with JJ.

While your stack off range should be what it would be 60 bigs effective in a non straddled pot (if you were playing GTO), live players aren't making this same adjustment. The are thinking 'I shouldn't stack off with JJ here 1200 deep.' If villain is one of the bald euro guys, I prob get in JJ+, AK.

Not to overlevel, but the key issue IMO (assuming he's thinking) is whether you could have reasonably thought that you raise would isolate.

Depends on villain's open-limping frequency, his level of aggression (especially with regards to 3-betting) and what range you think he's giving you.