i agree w/ this if we somehow know that villain is a very good player. vs 95%+ of the live player pool this will still be a bet tho.

edit: i would b/f obv as played. i would rather b/c w/ AQ than w/ ur hand.

really but aq loses to trips

lol at him ever having just trips there given his river c/r.

Call.

Yes but AQ makes it very difficult for him to be full. Why would you think he has a naked 7 here. As played you have a bluff catcher. It's a b/f, and I'm never "snapping" here except against special opponents.

Call PF is fine to play a hand that you won't get put on against an aggro player in pos. I feel with this line he either has the nuts or feels that you're hand isnt that strong ( A value betting?). Its a really high variance play to spew a 1k raise like that on the river hoping you would fold, even an ace. I feel most of the time he has the nuts here. I think he has AA, because I feel he wouldn't just check call with QQ for no reason on the turn, he would have lead out again. Flop play was fine. I think on the turn you should've made a bigger bet and if called checked behind on river. pot is about 330$ on the turn and you bet about 1/3 of that. If youre not ready to call a C/R on the river you should get your value in on turn, and check behind river. Do you think he would check to you on the turn with a set here? He did bet 75$ into 4 people on a drawy board, so I feel like he must have something. Id fold on the river as played.

well thats what i thought he was representing, aces or queens. so his range is super polarized. and i thought, when i put out the bet he was going to raise or fold, and raise in like 75%. i was really expecting a raise the way the hand played out, so i just didnt see any other possibility other then to call him.
especially since i bet rather big on the river so its actually a better spot for him to bluff since i almost never have the boat (and he knows that) but bet kinda big for the absolute strength of my hand...


so what your saying is you would bet the turn like 265 or smth and check back even a offsuit 9 ?
i wouldnt do that, since i didnt put him on higher flush. but if he can have the flush, id still like a b/f more on a river blank.
i think the only cards i would check back is another club...

I think I'd normally call.. But I think it's a bad call (and a leak that I've gotta get out of my game). River check-raise bluffs in live games are just so few and far between, and I don't think he's value raising anything that you beat.

Your hand looks like trip 7s at worse. Maybe top two. And a flush a lot of the time. Is he really going to try to bluff you off one of these hands?

I think his range for value raising the river includes a K-high or J-high flush, maybe even T-high (if he has T9cc, then there's not many flushes in your range that beat him) - since you pretty much never have a boat... Based on flop bet sizing, I don't think he's showing up with AA or 55 or 77 very often, but QQ and A7 seem like good possibilities.

Fold's probably the best play.

All streets seem ok with me -- I think I'd bet more on the turn, but your sizing's not horrible since you want AK and AJ to call and he's showing a lot of weakness. But the river's probably a bet-fold.

If you didn't raise flop because you think it looks too fishy, it doesn't make sense to plan on raising a blank turn. This looks way more fishy than just raising the flop since villain wouldn't expect you to flat a monster 4way unless bb or straddle were really spewy.

You don't always have to be able to rep. a ton of stuff, or have the perfect board, to make a certain play. If villain thinks you will only raise bottom or middle set otf then the way to change that is to raise with a wider range. Flush draw+gutshot seems like a good place to start. And even if he does only put you on a set he has to go into c/c mode with 1 pair which is good for your hand.

JackWraith - Do you mind sharing the results of this hand?

not at all. i called and he immediately said "low flush is good". i showed him 34c and he showed, kinda disgusted, AQo.

Overheard him afterwards talking to a friend of his like "would you put me on a boat?" and his friend said something like yeah but its so hard to actually have a boat.... and "next time just have it!"