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03-04-2023 , 12:57 PM
Hero ~ $1k

Sb ~ Covers. Unknown to me and I'm a reg who plays here a lot. Seems like average bad player on the loose passive side.

BB ~ $800. Complete wild card blackjack player who is taking a break from the pits. Another reg told me the other day the guy players $500-$1000 a hand at BJ. This guy is clearly drunk or on pills/coke something. First hand he sits it folds to him and he looks at the dealer like "what do I do?" and he puts out four greens ($100). Everyone folds lol. Shortly after he called my 3b and donked into me with K2o on something 953ssx. So yeah he's special.

I'm the UTG straddle $10. One limper in MP and SB raises to $35.
BB whale calls $35
I make it $150 with AK
SB calls $150
BB calls $150

Flop AKQ Pot ~ $460

SB checks
BB whale puts out four greens ($100) awkwardly and looking at the dealer like is this ok?
Hero?
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03-04-2023 , 01:15 PM
Based on how you describe him, I would probably just call down and let him spew. Start betting if he checks, but yeah im probably calling down on almost every board except a 4 club runout. Even if the 4 straight comes you probably have to call.
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03-04-2023 , 01:17 PM
With top two and an SPR just over 2 hero is committed. If somebody has a set or JT so be it. Hero's immediate concern is making sure SB isn't getting good enough odds to stick around with his weaker draws, hands like AJs/QJs/JJ/TT. Raise to $300. If SB has a really good hand he is going with it and if he has air he is done, the only hands that matter are the ones that are temping to take one card for $100 in the hopes of stacking somebody.
Hero runs the risk of running the whale off if he was just being stupid but this board is too dangerous to try and trap.
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03-04-2023 , 01:41 PM
I’m just raise/gii here against whale.
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03-04-2023 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
With top two and an SPR just over 2 hero is committed. If somebody has a set or JT so be it. Hero's immediate concern is making sure SB isn't getting good enough odds to stick around with his weaker draws, hands like AJs/QJs/JJ/TT. Raise to $300. If SB has a really good hand he is going with it and if he has air he is done, the only hands that matter are the ones that are temping to take one card for $100 in the hopes of stacking somebody.
Hero runs the risk of running the whale off if he was just being stupid but this board is too dangerous to try and trap.
I agree to this. If this was heads up i would just call here 7 days a week- and let this spewmonkey just hand me money with his lol wide range. But yeah 3 ways on this board we need to also be concerned about not giving the third player in the hand good odds to bink a small flush or something like that.
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03-04-2023 , 01:57 PM
Make it 300, shove every turn. Easy game.
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03-05-2023 , 02:40 PM
Raise for value ... action-ending or flushy cards.

BB has $550 left, so $275-300.
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03-05-2023 , 05:10 PM
I raise to $350 and jam turn.
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03-06-2023 , 09:42 AM
Think literally any option is good here except folding of course


Could call. Could ship it. Could min raise which I actually like a lot
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03-08-2023 , 10:25 PM
Results: I decided to jam it all in to try and isolate the whale and price out the sb. The pot was quite big already and I’m committed so I think I like the suggestion to go $300 and go with it on turn better.

Sb player tanks and shows dealer his cards (sitting in 1 seat). Folds. Dealer looks stunned.

Bb whale squirms and some irrelevant chatter and folds. Decides to leave and gives dealer $50 on his way out.

Sb player claims he folded QQ for bottom set!!! Dealer confirms. 😂😂😂 holyyyyyyy
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03-09-2023 , 03:18 AM
Grunch - with position and fish on the line I’d prefer to raise the turn than the flop, but V’s flop bet sizing isn’t great for us so MAYBE an lol click back to $200 and then put in a real bet OTT.
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03-09-2023 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ralphykid67
Results: I decided to jam it all in to try and isolate the whale and price out the sb. The pot was quite big already and I’m committed so I think I like the suggestion to go $300 and go with it on turn better.

Sb player tanks and shows dealer his cards (sitting in 1 seat). Folds. Dealer looks stunned.

Bb whale squirms and some irrelevant chatter and folds. Decides to leave and gives dealer $50 on his way out.

Sb player claims he folded QQ for bottom set!!! Dealer confirms. 😂😂😂 holyyyyyyy
Sick results but I hate how you played it. For all we know the guy could have 73o, don't let him get out of the pot. With shove you probably even make him fold gutters/trash pairs. Call>clicking back>>>>shove
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02-09-2024 , 04:31 PM
Jam to make QQ fold duh
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02-09-2024 , 05:18 PM
I think call is good if it was just us two, but I'm not looking to give SB a good price to call, so I'm raising to 250 here to isolate, and jamming turn.

That said, I do think Jam is a reasonable option

If we don't jam, what are we doing on really bad turns, e.g. 10c here, and he all in jams. Are we calling? Against most villains it would be a fold, but I'm guessing we might just run with it against this villiain.
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02-09-2024 , 09:49 PM
SB should quit poker.
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02-10-2024 , 11:53 AM
Minclick. 200$. See what SB does and re-eval. You're just putting in stacks but I don't know what large raises get value from here. Calling seems too passive for this sizing.
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02-11-2024 , 12:54 AM
Uhm...well played?

I'd love to hear the SB explain himself. He raises pre with QQ in the SB. So far, so good, but then he just flats your 3B, OOP and multi-way, with this loose whale between you?

I mean...I understand not wanting to push the whale out of the pot, but it's going to be really hard for him to realize his equity here, when he caps his range, and we're last to act as the pre-flop 3B'er.

Folding QQ seems terrible, but...nope, it just seems terrible. What better hands does he have that aren't JTs?

As for hero...tough spot, but I think raising is correct, and we don't have the stack depth to raise any meaningful amount and have enough left behind to create the illusion of fold equity, so I think we can just jam, even though the most likely result is they both fold (because we don't know SB has QQ in his range here) and we don't get any more value for our hand.
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