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2/5/10 2nd nfd facing donkjam and a call 2/5/10 2nd nfd facing donkjam and a call

09-10-2021 , 08:49 PM
Hero new at the table 1,5k
Villain 1 drunk and I know from before that he can be spewy. Stack 220
Villain 2 young guy I know from another session. Pretty tight passive. Stack arpund 450

Straddle, 1 limper, hero raises to 50 otb with KJ, sb, bb and straddle call.
Flop (210) 875
V1 snap jams 220, V2 thinks like 30 seconds and calls, hero?
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09-10-2021 , 10:13 PM
Seems like a simple ranging and pot odds problem. If V2 is going to commit you on the turn, treat this as a $400 (or is it $450?) call to win a pot of 900. So 2:1. Meaning you need 33% equity with two cards to come. Now go to equilab and give V1/V2 some reasonable ranges and see how KJs stacks up. My guess is it’s a close spot, probably lean fold.
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09-11-2021 , 04:47 AM
All in
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09-11-2021 , 06:55 AM
FWIW, you don't have a nut flush draw.
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09-12-2021 , 11:42 AM
Arent we worried about the nfd?
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09-12-2021 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ChaosInEquilibrium
Seems like a simple ranging and pot odds problem. If V2 is going to commit you on the turn, treat this as a $400 (or is it $450?) call to win a pot of 900. So 2:1. Meaning you need 33% equity with two cards to come. Now go to equilab and give V1/V2 some reasonable ranges and see how KJs stacks up. My guess is it’s a close spot, probably lean fold.
It's definitely a close spot, I probably lean call, but more importantly wouldn't worry about it too much regardless of what you did, EV going to be close either way and this type of spot comes up very infrequently
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09-12-2021 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SUYAPA
Arent we worried about the nfd?
It's a concern but not a big one. V1 is likely on an any pair/any draw type range. He has worse flush draws and straight draws in his range so hero beats most of his possible draws. V2 should mostly be on pairs. If he does have a flush draw his range is probably weighted towards nut flush draws but they shouldn't make up much of his range.

The risk of a nut flush draw is also partially offset by rare cases hero can win with king high. One villain shows up with worse flush draw and the other a straight draw. There is also a chance V2 folds when hero shoves and V1 turns up with a draw.

I don't think shoving or folding is bad in this situation. EV is probably around zero since mostly one of the two will have a pair and you need to improve. Your just getting good enough pot odds to compensate for well under a 50% chance of winning.
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09-12-2021 , 08:16 PM
It's probably close like others have said. Folding is OK, jamming is OK. I'm not bothered much either way.
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