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10-10-2008 , 07:32 PM
Daily 2-4 game. Full ring. Im in MP holding AKo. 3 limpers. I make it 24 to go.

two calls. Small stacks. I couver. I have about 700 €. BU reraises to 65 (tight passive player, I really like to play him. He thinks I am a tough player. Respects my play and I often have v good reads on him). He has about 700 as well.

BB goes in the tank than mucks.

Whats your line?
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10-12-2008 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Soehnke
Daily 2-4 game. Full ring. Im in MP holding AKo. 3 limpers. I make it 24 to go.

two calls. Small stacks. I couver. I have about 700 €. BU reraises to 65 (tight passive player, I really like to play him. He thinks I am a tough player. Respects my play and I often have v good reads on him). He has about 700 as well.

BB goes in the tank than mucks.

Whats your line?
1) 24 is too small live with 3 limpers already in the pot, ime. It depends on table dynamics obvious, but I think closer to 35-40 is good.
2) Making it 65 to go with 3 people in for 24 is an absurdly small bet. I don't think a tight-passive player is making that raise with AA/KK hoping you reraise, so that he can get it in. It almost looks like a donk attempt to "define" his hand with JJ. I think I 4-bet to like 180. Call any short stack shove. Tight passive players will often lay down even QQ to this much heat.

You obviously can't fold, especially with your ability to read villain. Simply calling allows the shorties to come in as well, and I hate taking AK 4-way.
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10-12-2008 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by riverfish1
1) 24 is too small live with 3 limpers already in the pot, ime. It depends on table dynamics obvious, but I think closer to 35-40 is good.
2) Making it 65 to go with 3 people in for 24 is an absurdly small bet. I don't think a tight-passive player is making that raise with AA/KK hoping you reraise, so that he can get it in. It almost looks like a donk attempt to "define" his hand with JJ. I think I 4-bet to like 180. Call any short stack shove. Tight passive players will often lay down even QQ to this much heat.

You obviously can't fold, especially with your ability to read villain. Simply calling allows the shorties to come in as well, and I hate taking AK 4-way.
and fold to a shove i guess.

i think i call given the pot odds, and play pretty straightfroward. it is live afterall.
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10-13-2008 , 06:49 PM
Doesn't a weak tight player show up with AA or KK here often? How often does he reraise pf? Have you seen him call raises pf with QQ, JJ, etc? You seem to have played enough hands against him to have a good idea of where he is at. I like the 4 bet to like 160-190. But against a weak/tight, I don't see how calling his all-in is a good play.
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10-15-2008 , 05:32 PM
you can't leave out how much money he has in front of him... it is a really important part... if it's that small tho, i probably just shove so he folds jj/qq
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10-16-2008 , 01:42 PM
I shoved.Other folded. He called with QQ.
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10-17-2008 , 10:59 AM
tight passive player bieng aggressive with a re raise... kinda obvious...
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10-17-2008 , 12:48 PM
Isn't shoving for here a little spewy I like the big raise like $180 and then folding to a shove. This gives QQ a chance to fold.

I agree with the comment of raising bigger in live. They will still call.

Soundz like a great game? Mite have to come to Germany. Are the games there alway's that good!
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10-17-2008 , 01:51 PM
Even better haha....
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