Vilain just sat about 1 hour ago, young norweigian pro. Seemed very agro isoing fish limps about 75% of the time and playing pretty agro postflop. Overheard him talk to another reg and he seemed like a competent player.

Hero - My image is pretty agro, at a very tight table I built my stack with small pots, and only played one hand vs this guy where he opened to 15 on the button, I flat QJo from sb, flop 9 K 4 , check check, turn is a 9 I bet 20, he flats, and river check check he shows A8 , I thought that was pretty bad since he blocks alot of combo draws which makes my hand more towards value.

Anyways onto the hand,

Two fish limp, he makes it 25 on the button, I am in sb with KJo

I elect to squeeze to 90 and expect to take down the pot a decent amount of the time ( 750 € eff stacks)

He flats

Flop KT6 rainbow

I check with the intention of check calling, he checks

Turn 9 rainbow

Once again I think theres more value in check calling then betting. He bets 85 I call

River 7

I check he bets 200

Hero??

I thought he didnt have alot of 8s and that I was at the top of my range, and advice on the hand would be great, even if the mistake is on previous streets.

Oop just bet flop and play relatively straightforward. Hand is played horribly post flop.

Bet flop
As played bet turn
As played probably folding river

Yea fold river...bet that flop tho

what are we trying to accomplish by betting flop? Looking back I do agree on betting flop and check folding river, but flop I think its pretty standard to check on such a dry board with no real reason to bet.

I'm guessing you come from an online background?

Flop KT6 rainbow is still a wet board with QJ, 98, 87, AJ, AQ etc...hands on some straight draw.

I'm betting flop to get value from worse Kings, QT, JT, AT, T9 and T8. I'm betting flop for protection and charge draw, I'm betting the flop because I made the last aggressive action. I'm betting the flop in the attempt to start on defining villain ranges more clearer as the hand develops.

As played you have decided to play your hand as bluff catcher which I assume by checking both flop and turn that you think he has way more air in his range that just 8X that got there on river.

yes online cash fr

I see

So say we bet 85 on flop and get called, so board now is K T 6 9 , pot has 360 now and vilain has ~500 behind, what is the most optimal play?

Bet flop for value...

Value?

Was on my phone but yeah pretty much what Robin said. Live players are not nearly as technically solid as online players and will peel WAYYYYYY lighter both pre and post. TPGK is like the nuts here and particularly in a 3b pot we need to be betting this flop. Expect to get called pretty wide especially with an aggro image. Not betting this flop is pretty criminal.

While balance is that important live,I assume you would be betting AT-AQ?

Turn is a pretty trivial b/f IMO...maybe 200-ish...maybe even smaller

ok thanks for the input guys, basically my thought process is that since preflop it was essentially a "bluff" and I wasnt 3betting for value, then the same goes postflop, but your arguments make sensse