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2/4 hero calling against polarized triple barrel range 2/4 hero calling against polarized triple barrel range

07-01-2016 , 10:20 AM
Live 2/4 full ring $400 max bi

Hero (CO): tag reg image. ~ $700
V1 (BTN): young white nerdy dude. seems like he plays a bit online, but not used to live play. sat down recently. ~ $600
V2 (UTG): european omc, loose passive preflop, tight passive post playing 40/20. just went on tilt due to being pissed at a ruling the last hand ~ $500

Pre ($6)
V2 opens $20, throwing chips aggressively into pot. Hero w/ A8 calls. I have an edge on V2 and IP, this seems fairly standard. V1 calls.

Flop ($66)
K98
V2 Checks. Hero Checks. V1 bets $30. Hero calls. I though V was betting most of his range here since its a good stealing spot.

Turn ($126)
2
Hero checks. V1 quickly bets $60. Hero calls. I feel V1 doesnt bet all his kings on this turn, but definitely continues his bluffs.

River ($246)
K
Hero checks. V1 quickly bets $110, then stays completely frozen for the next 2 minutes. Hero??

I feel like V's value range is narrowed down to KQ, 99, 88, but he'd definitely continue all his bluffs this way, especially given my line has been fairly weak. Does KT, KJ really tripple barrel? its hard to get called by worse hands.

I also feel live players tend to size their value hands way larger instead of betting 1/2 pot each street. Also betting quickly and staying completely still. Sick hero spot?

Last edited by nihcnahtan; 07-01-2016 at 10:26 AM.
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07-01-2016 , 10:24 AM
I think it'd be strange to call turn and not call that river. If you believe in your read on the turn, call river.
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07-01-2016 , 11:16 AM
You say V2 is loose, passive pre, but then say he's raising 20% of hands. I don't think of people that raise 20% as passive.

I think the flop call is meh OOP. IP I'd do this all day long. V gets to see us act before he has to and we'll basically have to telegraph weakness with a hand that actually is weak. I've called down three streets OOP weaker than this, but only when I had a solid read V was bluffy and liked to barrel air.

It's not the greatest steal spot for V1. He's up against two opponents, including a PFR, on a board with some draws. He's betting less than half the pot. V2 is on tilt, meaning he may be more likely to call light.

Turn is a brick and V1 again bets less than half the pot. Could be the second barrel, but LLSNL V's usually don't bluff enough. If V is an online reg that could irrelevant here, but it doesn't sound like you're completely confident of that read.

I think the turn is the decision spot. You're in a RIO spot unless V1 bluffs as often as he value bets on the river, which I think is very unlikely. Without a solid read V was bluffy, I'd let this go. But if you call, you have to also call the river. Building a sizable pot with a V you think is bluffy and then abandoning it is really bad.

As played, you made your decision on the turn when you decided to call. Call here.
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07-02-2016 , 06:20 AM
I like betting the flop after V2 checks. Preflop is kinda OK if you have strong reads/edge but I prefer being deeper and rather just fold this pre.

As played his river bet looks a lot like K7s+, KT. He probably doesn't have a 9 or TT, JJ, but he could be betting those for value (I would be betting those for value as your line here is almost never Kx).

His small river sizing means you don't have to be good very often, only ~23% of the time, but do you think 23% of the time he's bluffing here? Possibly.

Your hand looks exactly like what it is, an 8, 9 or TT, JJ. That river sizing doesn't seem like it's trying to get an 8, 9 or TT-JJ to fold, seems like it's trying to get those type of hands to call. I typically take things at face value until people give me a reason to think otherwise.

FWIW I would have played the hand as follows: Folded pre (although all 3 options are pretty fine, lean more towards raising than calling this deep without super solid reads/history), would have bet 40-45 when checked to on the flop, would have folded to villains turn bet, and would have folded to villain's river bet.

Last edited by Jarretman; 07-02-2016 at 06:35 AM.
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07-02-2016 , 06:37 AM
It's really not that great of a stealing spot for V1, since the board is wettish and an UTG preflop raiser is still in the hand on a K-High board. I agree with Case2 in that you really don't want to be calling down 3 streets OOP. Also if I'm V1 I'm betting all my K's on this turn. However once you call the turn, the river is a pretty good card for you, so go ahead and call it.

I probably just c/f the flop here. You were looking to play IP against a bad V2, and now you find yourself OOP vs. a V1 that's showing some interest, and not many board runouts are good for your hand. A lot of times in these spots you end up being ahead on the flop but last by the river.
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