Utg blind all in 110
Utg1 very tight calls (800)
Hero LJ AQo (1300 covered by 2 players behind)…

Seems like easy fold.

Need more info on very tight UTG1.

I would like to know more about UTG+1 but absent more information then he is very tight I'm folding. From UTG+1 a very tight player's range beats AQo a lot. Plus AQo will lose to a 100% range enough to take up some of your range advantage against UTG+1.

I’m very tight but I’m happily calling a blind utg jam w 77 in his spot so…

I'm not folding here. Call and play poker in position vs. a tight player. If someone behind raises, we have a decision depending on player/action.

I fold pre but that's just me.

The tight player next to act who's calling is the deal sealer he's the one that's got us crushed, not the blind all in guy.

You don't think he'd raise a premium to get heads up and keep out the premium-crackers? Maybe there is a wild card behind us who he expects to raise, so he's waiting to limp/raise, but that's the only reason for him to "limp."

We can still flop gin and/or outplay him.

The initial shove is so large that for me I'm not reopening anything. Why would you want to reraise AA there?

Either way you still have two deep stacks behind and you're just not going to win that often with one guy all in and a tight caller from EP.

Calling and hoping to bink a flop is not a great plan. And you're going to outplay someone where there's a dry side pot to start? You know you have to go to showdown.

I don't think he's going anywhere, he's not putting in 110 just to fold to a raise (I don't think so anyway) and flatting would be horrible since we'll be in no man's land post flop with ace high the vast majority of the time vs a very tight player and playing fit or fold for that amount is a -EV play.

This is exactly why he should be raising AA, KK, QQ, AK, etc. Once he flats, he has to expect a domino effect with deep players behind him, and he will be OOP in no man's land against a wide range of hands.

The only way I'm ever flatting a premium here is if there is a maniac behind me and I'm 99% sure he will raise. Are you guys flatting AA, etc.?

If you can't play AQ vs this guy post or if he's a pro and you know he can outplay you, by all means, fold.

I'm folding because calling with AQo when a tight person in early position cold calls a big open shove with players who cover me deep behind left to act is a losing play.

And as that first caller isoing AA by making it even bigger is terrible. People aren't just going to overcall willy nilly.

And you might even get some donkey with AQo to flat behind you whereas if you raised AA they could fold. Let them flat almost drawing dead and let them try to outplay you.

Agreed he should be flatting his monsters too, but I’m not sure he is.

He has low vpip and pfr, plays a lot of small pots and somewhat weak tight. My guess is he would be happy to take down the 115 nearly uncontested as opposed to risking getting stacked when his aces get cracked.

My initial reaction was to jam my 12bb effective but that is not what I did.

One more thing to consider. If we flat and it goes 3 ways with a dry side, this would be one of the few instances we could consider bluffing the dry side.

Just to reiterate, the utg shover never looked at his cards. If we bluff utg1 off AK or TT we could often win at showdown with ace high.

I agree. And that would mean that there’s other times it makes sense to bluff dry sides if all in shorty is maniac and light and the deeper stack can have us beat with slightly better but not good enough to face the heat type hands.

We have 1300 dollars (433 big blinds) and we're covered by two players behind us this could get real ugly real quick I would just fold instead of playing high stakes bingo with ace high fr

You play with a very different crowd. W/ or w/o our Hero's calling, if they are deep, the guys I play with are calling that $110 w/ suited connectors, suited one-gappers, PPs, etc. You'd be nuts not to raise a premium. The more I think about it, Hero's raising is not a terrible idea. Wish I knew more about the other players.

I mean the blind raise is basically what the big blind is now, so you have 13bb. If it folds to us we can do something like this where tan is min raise and purple is jam:



Of course no one plays 2/3 hoping to have to play with 110 blinds, so it's up to you whether or not you want to accept the variance. Guaranteed that people will not call your jam as light as they should though so this chart should make money.

The problem here is that a tight player likely doesn't look at the 110 jam as a big blind, they likely just think they have a 110 hand. I have been in spots like this where two players flatted and I jammed ATs and get tank called by AK who was the second flatter.

The question is, does he ever flat with worse hands like AJ, KQ? And will he fold hands like 77 to a jam?

So I think we need to think a lot about reads and hand history because I think jamming is certainly on the table. But if his range is exactly AQ+ and 77-QQ AND he is never folding to a jam then we cannot jam. We're not getting horrible odds to flat and hope to flop a pair, maybe if he has an underpair we even get to see more streets. I hate to invite more people into the pot though.

So yeah, a lot to consider and I think call, fold, or jam could be the answer depending on our info about v.

No, no no no no we don't have 13 bb's

This type of thinking is seriously gonna get you an ur br in a lotta trouble quick ainec at all

Exactly lol. For example if sb shoved 500 of a 1k stack. You don't just shrug and call off with 22 because it's 2bb and you're now committed.

I like raising. Doesn't need to be a jam. Even a 2.25x raise should be enough to discourage anyone else from coming along.

Pretend you have AA, and raise.

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I think you're the one that plays with a very different crowd actually. A crowd that exists exclusively of mouthbreathers. The advantage of this is that it's likely netting you some nice profits, but the disadvantage is that it has somehow led you to believe with unwarranted confidence that you're any good at this game.

These guys are very deep with someone flatting a $110 blind bet, and you don't think good players are calling with hands that play well deep, in position, vs a tight player, for less than 10% of their stack? If they know how to play poker and are confident in their post-flop play, they are calling all day long. I know I am. And, yes, I have lots of confidence in my game.

Of course, you are one of those guys who tries to pick on someone in a thread without even posting about the hand, so your opinion means nothing.

Result: Hero calls, btn calls, sb calls. 5 ways.

Flop (553) : T98r
Checks around

Then (553) : 8ss
Sb fish bets 100, utg1 raises to 250, just sb calls

River (553, 500) : 5x
Check, utg1 250, snap fold

Utg1 shows 99, utg has T5o.

Bud I play much higher stakes and I understand bankroll management.