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12-02-2011 , 11:38 PM
9 handed table. i was on mp3($800 stake), utg limped ,every folded to me ,i limped cause player on bb($700 stake) was a lag, raised about 30% pref .folded to sb ,limped ,bb raised to $25, utg called , i called ,trying to trap him,sb folded.
flop Ah 2h 5d,checked, utg bet $25, i flat called, bb raised to $100, folded , i flat.turn 7d, bb pushed ai about $600 ,hero? would you fold top set to that move?
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12-02-2011 , 11:44 PM
Good spot to 3bet pre. Your hand is fairly well disguised considering you overlimped. Not a big fan of slowplaying a monster on the flop, just raise.

Your post would be easier to read if you formatted the hand like you see in other posts.
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12-02-2011 , 11:45 PM
WOWWOWOWOOW this was slowplayed not once, not 2wice, but 3 times!

Your plan preflop is a little unorthodox, but I can live with it as you are IP and there wont be more than 4 people in the pot. So taking the gamble that the BB will lag it up isnt too bad, and can work for you sometimes. As long as you can get away from AA on bad flops, I think you have merit.

Once he raises and you flat (AGAIN?!) is a bad play. You need to make this $100 pre. Get in as much money as possible.

Then you call the raise OTF?! Just get it in!
I think there are way way way too many set/2pair combos in general from BB

Sorry if he had 34 here, but it's kinda your fault.

And is this post a level or not? (Real question)
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12-02-2011 , 11:49 PM
I'm not folding
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12-02-2011 , 11:54 PM
As illustrated by the other posters, your slowplay has put you in a very tough spot from which you really can't fold. Villain's range includes many set combinations.
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12-03-2011 , 12:34 AM
im not even going to comment on the way the hand was played...as played, why do you even think about folding here? one hand beats you and i doubt he raised that hand out of the bb and if he did so be it, im never folding top set when its the second nuts and probably rarely folding top set in general
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12-03-2011 , 12:59 AM
As the old saying goes (always tilting used to say this)

"If you dont lose a big pot with a set, you are not playing them right"
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12-03-2011 , 02:11 AM
lol at quoting always tilting in a positive way. but nah, it actually does apply in this spot... you gotta go broke.

on a side note: always tilting has always struck me as one of those random old regs who wins with their own suboptimal/convoluted strategy that basically calls for having the nuts every time, never bluffing or c-betting light, never taking slight +EV edges, and always getting paid off because live players suck.
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12-03-2011 , 02:15 AM
^^^^

At first I thought his advice was good on this forum, then he kept repeating. and repeating. and repeating. the same one liners and not explaining why or how.

And thats exactly what I get out of him. He just sits at the table, grinds out a living nutpeddling/ playing the softest games in the US.

He would get crushed online. Something like an 7/5

BTW whatever happened to him?
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12-03-2011 , 02:21 AM
i dunoo, maybe he finally got tired of people telling him he's an idiot... i have mixed feelings about him, i got in some pretty heated debate with him (though he wasn't listening at all, obviously).. he's got his one-liner philosophies that are so ****ing tilting, but i also can't really (fully) disagree that they probably help him get paid off. you really can wait for the nuts and never bluff and win, but he never understood the concept of "maximizing" our win-rate rather than just playing a strategy that makes SOME amount of $. but i also kno he's had the exact same game plan for 20 years and never got better, too. he's not really here to learn, IMO.
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12-03-2011 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Pay4Myschool
WOWWOWOWOOW this was slowplayed not once, not 2wice, but 3 times!

Your plan preflop is a little unorthodox, but I can live with it as you are IP and there wont be more than 4 people in the pot. So taking the gamble that the BB will lag it up isnt too bad, and can work for you sometimes. As long as you can get away from AA on bad flops, I think you have merit.

Once he raises and you flat (AGAIN?!) is a bad play. You need to make this $100 pre. Get in as much money as possible.

Then you call the raise OTF?! Just get it in!
I think there are way way way too many set/2pair combos in general from BB

Sorry if he had 34 here, but it's kinda your fault.

And is this post a level or not? (Real question)
it was real live-game in casino.i got punished for slowing aa that way.called him and he showed 34s.
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12-03-2011 , 05:54 PM
OP - never folding here. can't comment about the way you played bc it was suboptimal, to say the least.

Everyone else - I loved always tilting's posts - they always gave me a good chuckle cuz they were so off the wall - "As Jimmy Downtown says..."
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12-03-2011 , 06:02 PM
ez turn fold since the only way this stupid hand gets posted is if you are beat on the turn.
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12-03-2011 , 06:40 PM
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ez turn fold since the only way this stupid hand gets posted is if you are beat on the turn.
lol. Flopped nuts is a pretty small part of his range. Could easily have 22 55 and more rarely 2 pairs (due to our holding most of the aces). Never folding vs a lag.
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12-03-2011 , 07:03 PM
3 bet pre BECOZ he is lag. Otherwise u are just playing into his strength.
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12-03-2011 , 07:37 PM
you are never folding here seriously your beat by 1 hand and there is lots of 2P A combos that are drawing dead to you. Not to mention FD.

anyways horribly played youll never win money if you play AA like this you deserved to lose as you wouldn't have learnt otherwise.

Preflop is weird but you had a plan but OTF Raise his $25 bet or if you flat which you should never shove the $100 bet jesus
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12-04-2011 , 12:25 AM
grunch

You MUST fold this hand at this point. After all, you are losing to 3/4 ATM and likely are just building a pot for either the heart or diamond flushes to hit. Beyond that, since you played the hand so slowly (tho I totally understand and agree with your thinking on all streets), nobody is even putting you on AA. They're not afraid of the AA b/c they are going to make their flush or already have the straight anyway.

I just peeked at your results post. Bad call. Next time fold in this spot.
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12-04-2011 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by canoodles
lol at quoting always tilting in a positive way. but nah, it actually does apply in this spot... you gotta go broke.

on a side note: always tilting has always struck me as one of those random old regs who wins with their own suboptimal/convoluted strategy that basically calls for having the nuts every time, never bluffing or c-betting light, never taking slight +EV edges, and always getting paid off because live players suck.
AT was my dude. Gave the most solid advice on this site. Sadly, he started posting in MSLHE more often, but now probably figures it's better to keep his super genius strategies to himself so he can win all the money.

Truthfully, though, I believe that guy was a dupe. He had to be The garbage he posted never made sense and had 0 substantiation. The guy claimed to have a 500BI BR and made $75/hr @ 2/5. He also drove away marlol_stanfield or whatever his name was (one of the few posters on this forum whose advice I ever paid attention to), which upset me even more.

Now that AT is gone, I pay homage to the dupe by posting things like what I just contributed to this thread. Someone's gotta step up in his absence.
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