2/3 game with mostly middle-aged/old limpers.

Hero: ~$400 UTG+1 Seen as a TAG. I'd been at the table for about an hour and won most pots I was in. 1/4 went to showdown, where my K9s in CO (family pot) won. Before that people were folding to my $15 open raises. Anyways, I usually don't open limp, but considering the table didn't get trigger happy PF, I decided to do so with QJ off-suit. 6 players were in the hand OTF including....

Villain: ~$250 BTN. Rarely raises, likes to see a lot of pots (Between 30-40%). Post flop, he gets aggressive. He open bet air from SB in a three way pot and after getting a caller, double barreled OTT. After a C/C, he showed air OTR. He had also been active on most streets in every pot he played.

Flop: $13 - J 9 6 rainbow.

Hero bets $10 to only be called by BTN.

Turn: $33 - 4 (or something like that, basically not total scarecard, but potentially allows for a runner-runner straight. Villain could have started with ATC)

Hero bets $25, call..

River: $83 K

Hero checks, Villain bets $75... Large bet for value or bluff? Didn't want to value town myself. I wanted to check/call, but paused at the nearly pot sized bet.

Fold pre and bf river for like 35 or 40ish

I fold preflop, even if the table isn't raisey. I wait for LP before playing these offsuit junky (i.e. dominated) broadway hands, although I will open limp the suited ones. As it turns out, this is a fairly good example of how important position is in these spots (as we could often check back the river here, or perhaps even check back the turn to setup a bluff catcher / guarantee a second street of value, but this is obviously impossible to do OOP).

I'm fine with the postflop play to the river (I'm assuming we're bet/folding each street).

I'm also fine with the river check against a guy who is capable of bluffing, especially when the draws bust and an overcard comes (which means it is just that less likely that he pays off a value bet with a very weak hand). I also balk at the size of the bet, but I think if I'm playing well I follow thru with my plan and call.

GcluelessNLnoobG

fold.

I dont hate limping in this game but QJo is not a limping hand. Limp something that flops better than one-pair+draw especially oop.

Sounds right to me.

Did the draws miss? The open-ender QT gets there on the river.

Yikes, I missed that.

To me it now really comes down to how bluffy this guy can get. His big bet to me more indicates "please fold" than "please call", but again it comes down to his bluffing tendencies (as it could mean "now I gotta bet big in order to really cash in").

GgrosserspotnowG

T8 and 87 missed. QT got there; KJ also possible. If you think he overlimps all that stuff on the button (seems reasonable enough) and bets it all for almost pot (seems less likely and you should prob discount some combos based on this info):

32 combos of T8/87 and 21 of QT/KJ makes it a clear call.

Poker is no place for maths!

GwishIwasbetteratcombinationsatthetable(andoff)G

Fold pre....hand never plays well OOP as you are now figuring out.

As played, check-call river is good unless you have some sort of soul read on aggressive post flop villain....

I'm with Wewa on this one. Fold this hand pre. If you wanna play QJ, play it for a raise when it's suited and you are in very late position / button.

As played I like a bet/fold here.