The Bike, 2/3 NL

Effective stacks 900

Hero is in HJ, Villain is an older man nit in MP.


Hero is dealt 77


ACTION:

PF: A couple limpers, nit limps, hero limps, button limps and blinds check.


Pot : 21 minus drop

FLOP Q 8 7


Check to nit who bets 25. Hero calls, all others fold.


TURN: 8


NIT bets 20, hero calls.


RIVER: 3

NIT bets 200, hero ??????

Why no raise otf/ott?

Raise to $450, then maybe fold if he shoves, depends what you think he does with nut flush.

Hard to imagine you're beat, Q8 maybe, but does he bomb the river like that with a boat? I'd expect a flush most of the time.

I'm raising the flop 100% of the time too

Why are you not raising the flop or the turn?

really should be obvious the sort of value range he has here. assuming a nit is never over bet bluffing the river with busted draws and he isn't over valueing a hand like tpgk, there is not much we are ahead of.

even if a nit was betting a strong draw otf, they are going to be scared of the board pairing, thinking that even if they make their flush it will be no good, and they would definitely not be over betting the river for value.

definitely would be raising flop and turn. even nits can be stations.

Just call river. Raise folding is an option but I would hate it if he overplays nut flush and ships it. This looks like q8,qq,87 or nut flush. It's never a bluff or just a naked 8 or small flush though. I'm raising flop all day but probably hating life if reraised lol.

call river. Turn looks so much like a blocking bet with a flush draw. But, you know, hard to say for sure without reads -- it's possible that a random villain would play a turned boat the same way. I'm also curious why you didn't raise at any point.

Raising river just folds out all the flushes we hope he has.

I would raise the flop on such a drawy board. I would definitely raise the turn when he weak leads and I would call the river.

I dunno what to say here as I would never be in this spot, because I would have raised the flop and bombed the turn.

I dont really know what your asking here, you beat everything that makes sense other than Q8 and 88 nits usually raise QQ preflop.

I dont really understand this thread tbh. if you got coolered than sorry bro....

you can absolutely raise/fold river vs this guy as he is never 3bet shipping the river with a flush.

I'm grunching and I'm guessing everyone will hate your line. I kinda don't mind it being 300bbs deep against a nit.

I also overlimp preflop against multiple limpers.

I'm kinda torn on flop. Part of me wants to raise on this drawy board in a multiway pot. The other part of me doesn't want to get on the way to playing for 300bb against a nit. The latter wins out, imo. Besides, we have position and can guarantee more money goes in on later streets, plus not fold out a lotta hands that nits will fold here. I don't hate the flop call.

Can we read anything into the weird turn bet sizing? I mean, he just bet less than what he bet the flop with. I think I'm cool with the call. If we raise, I just don't see too many worse hands that a nit is going to call with here.

Wow. Tough river. The nit is never bluffing here with the draw coming in. And a nit is also never 2x potting the river with the nut flush on a paired board, even with our passive play. On the one hand, we really underrepped our hand and can consider ourselves lucky if we just call here and got coolered. On the other hand, I'm trying to figure out what we beat. I can't think of anything. I probably lean towards crying call (underrepped, nice pot control so we did our best, etc.) cuz sometimes old men go off their meds and spazz out, but if he looks like he's been taking his meds, ug.

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we are 300bb effective in a limped pot raising the flop doesn't necessarily mean we HAVE to play for stacks is we determine we are beat.

meh there's nothing good about the turn gg. Either he's going to pay us or he's not. We're basically only behind QQ given his range. Make him show us he can fold AA, KK, Qx, or a club draw. It's a clear, clear raise over his block bet.

What "value" do we get by calling turn? The hope that he bets $20 again on the river?

We're behind QQ/88/87/Q8. Although could definitely be something like AA/KK/Qx/T9s.

The turn bet to me looks like either (a) I have an extremely weak hand and am folding as soon as you motion to put chips in the pot or (b) I have an absolute monster and don't want you to fold your draw / or want to induce a raise. Looks like (b) given river action (admittedly, hindsight is 20/20).

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Here is my thinking

1) The bike is a pretty passive game (in comparison to other live venues)

2) I rarely get paid by bike regs, and especially never by bike nits.


PF: I hate raising small pairs after limpers - rather look for potential sets.

Flop: this guys leads wit strong hands. Everyone else know that. I get more value by flatting, and re evaluating the turn.

Turn: I felt his small bet was either a blocker to go for a flush, or he had a very strong hand. Since I am no longer worried about a flush, I'd rather let Him hit it - at the same time if he is crushing me, I'd rather keep the pot as small as possible.

u just called river I'm guessing??? At least u saved a lot of money. Coolers happen but that turn card is a pretty bad turn card for u.

Just noticed his overbet on river. There is no way I'm raising here. It's a crying call hoping he has a flush. If u don't think he ever bets this much on river with a flush the river is a very painful but clear fold.