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01-02-2020 , 07:30 PM
2/3 NLH - Table has been fairly passive, very little 3 betting and not many multi-way pots. Hero had recently stacked the only "action" player at the table KK > JJ, main V in the hand has just taken his place.

Hero (UTG+1) mid 20s WG, TAG image. Have been at table for 2.5 hours. Fairly card dead aside from the earlier KK hand. Covers.

V1 (CO) Old asian guy, seems like a reg. $300.

V2 (SB) MAAG, tight passive. $250.

V3 (BB) young-ish guy, loose passive. $400.

Preflop: Hero opens 15 w/ KK, V1 V2 and V3 all call.

Flop ($60): 875 V2 and V3 check, Hero checks, V1 bets 40, V2 and V3 fold, Hero?
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01-02-2020 , 07:54 PM
Difficult to say without a better read on V. This board does not favour our range and we are OOP. We have little chance to improve. SPR>4. Even his semibluffs have good equity against us. Given V2/3 have gotten out of the way we can c/call down safe runouts but making a nitty fold is ok too.
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01-02-2020 , 09:10 PM
C/c.
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01-03-2020 , 02:39 AM
Check call and evaluate turns and rivers. But being that people often will semibluff the 1st and 2nd nut draws short handed. I would likely see about check calling down on safe runout.
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01-03-2020 , 12:45 PM
I limp to reraise but that's pretty much all I do up until the CO+. Even though I'm assuming this result is somewhat unexpected at this table, it still happens enough for me to never want to be in it (cuz the result is the nut low, imo).

Even though this flop sucks I probably bet out smallish and likely fold to action. As played, I don't think we can weakly check/fold, but I also don't want to commit my stack having given these amazing preflop IO. So I take the inbetween route of calling and then just hoping for the best on the turn, but we're often going to be put in stoopid spots. I might consider donk/folding non-stoopid turns for very small.

ETA: One of the problems with just check/calling down safe runouts (and there ain't a lot of them) is that he can put us in a stoopid spot on the turn even by betting a worse hand that he thinks is best. I mean, if he bets just a 1/2 PSB of $70 into $140, that'll create a $280 pot with us just having $175 left. I guess we can just call that and check/fold the river since very few people 3barrel busted draws and almost no one bets just TP on the river after getting called multiple times. Still, we're banking on good runouts and non-stoopid bet sizing (if he bets a very reasonable $100 on the turn, that leaves us with just $145 left in a $340 pot, and can we ever really fold then?).

Gsetupbetterspotspreflop,imoG

Last edited by gobbledygeek; 01-03-2020 at 12:51 PM.
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01-03-2020 , 06:50 PM
AP Hero calls.

Turn (~$140) 7

Board is now 8757

Hero?
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01-04-2020 , 09:54 AM
Flop: I think old Asian guy can definitely b/b/b with AdX, so my plan is to x/c every street that’s not an A or diamond...but one of my leaks is definitely calling too much

Turn: not a great card for our range, but I still x/c. I don’t think V should have too many 7s here.
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01-04-2020 , 09:14 PM
I like a b/f better than a c/c OTF especially since you’re IP on V2 and V3. AP c/c I guess
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