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08-08-2019 , 04:51 AM
Villain 1 is loose old Armenian guy who isn't afraid of making big river bets. V1 is into the game for $1000 having lost his first few buyins. V1 has announced hes leaving the game in 15 minutes.
Villain 2 is very nitty middle aged Armenian guy who built up a big stack early and has barely been playing hands, Villain 1 is constantly commenting on this.
Hero covers the table. Hero has a loose image, has made one big fold to V1 on a two tone board that completed flush on the river. V2 has commented that hero has the opposite image of V1 and V1 should play more like hero.
Hero is dealt KhQd in the small blind.
5 limps preflop.
Hero raises to $25.
V2 calls from early position.
V1 calls from button.
Flop is KK4 with king of diamonds.
Checks around.
Turn is 7 of diamonds.
Hero checks.
V2 checks.
V1 bets $40.
V2 grabs $40 like he wants to call.
Hero check raises to $125.
V2 folds.
V1 snap calls.
River is deuce of diamonds.
Hero checks.
V1 snap jams for $246.
Hero?

Last edited by ProRailbird; 08-08-2019 at 05:05 AM.
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08-08-2019 , 04:55 AM
A "very nitty" player jams on the river on a paired board when a FD comes in? Easy fold with trips.
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08-08-2019 , 05:01 AM
Even though its a super dry board with this many players in the hand I would bet 1/3 pot to get out all the weird pp's that would hit a set on the turn and get value from a worse K. The reason why you always bet the flop when you flop a huge hand is the same reason you would do so here.

You played the flop "sneaky" and then x/r the turn which turns your hand face up instead of betting small twice and keeping your hand more disguised. A backdoor flushdraw isn't actually a BDFD when you check the flop, its just a normal FD. Pretend the board was K K 4 and the turn was a 7 and the V made this bet. It would most likely be a flush and this is effectively what your flop check made this hand into.

V could have 44, 77, or a flush. Its an obvious fold and if he somehow shows up with a sick bluff here you just tip your fedora and say well played.
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08-08-2019 , 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by venice10
A "very nitty" player jams on the river on a paired board when a FD comes in? Easy fold with trips.
V2 folded the turn, V1 called. I mislabelled the hand.
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08-08-2019 , 05:04 AM
Fold.

Also, bet the damn flop.

$50 OTF, $140 OTT, shove river.
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08-08-2019 , 05:09 AM
Result.
Spoiler:
Hero folds, V1 folds face down and says he turned an open ended straight draw and had to bluff diamonds.


Having Q of diamonds made me feel very much like calling because we block QJ-Q8dd which are all hands V1 would be calling from the button with here and we're super high in our range.
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08-08-2019 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ProRailbird
Result
Spoiler:
Hero folds, V1 folds face down and says he turned an open ended straight draw and had to bluff diamonds.
Doesn't mean he actually had an OESD but it would be a weirdly specific lie so Id probably believe him. Sometimes you get bluffed in a spot where a card hits V's range super hard and hes smart enough to take advantage. Calling in this spot over the long run will be massively -ev so just tell him nice play and move on.
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08-08-2019 , 06:17 AM
I played a hand with a really tight player a few days ago.

He opened from UTG1. Im the only caller with KQcc.

K 9 7 we go check check
Turn 2 He bets 2/3 pot I call.
River 5 He jams 150 into 140 - I insta muck. He shows A J.

I was 100% he had the A or K. Sometimes theres nothing you can do.
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08-08-2019 , 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AAJTo
I played a hand with a really tight player a few days ago.

He opened from UTG1. Im the only caller with KQcc.

K 9 7 we go check check
Turn 2 He bets 2/3 pot I call.
River 5 He jams 150 into 140 - I insta muck. He shows A J.

I was 100% he had the A or K. Sometimes theres nothing you can do.

Pretty terrible check by you OTF in position though.
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08-08-2019 , 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by momo_uk
Pretty terrible check by you OTF in position though.
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Im the V in that hand. I didn't want to make a brag post in someone elses thread
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08-08-2019 , 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AAJTo
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Im the V in that hand. I didn't want to make a brag post in someone elses thread

Lol, very strange line you took with AJss then. Can you explain?
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08-08-2019 , 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by momo_uk
Lol, very strange line you took with AJss then. Can you explain?
Since OP already posted the results I can crap in this thread a little bit since he doesn't seem to care about any more input.

This V (who has KQ) has a lot of history with me. Ive checked wet boards to him before with big hands and honestly he just plays too many hands that I can blindly barrel him and print money. In a vacuum this looks like an obvious weak flop check with nothing but with history its the reverse and I am pretending to have AK+ here and IIRC I hadn't played a hand in about an hour. Also explains why he checked KQ. Cbetting and shoving turn would look like a weaker line to him. Im bombing the river regardless of the heart but since that card came in it just made it so 99% of the time hes folding there since 4 hearts smashes my range which is the analogy I was going for with the OP being bluffed out on a flush card hitting.
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