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11-25-2011 , 08:32 AM

Lopos

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 102

Villain has been playing straight forward so far and afaik hasn't done anything too crazy.

So A

utg 9 handed, I raise to 15. Cutoff calls, all else fold.

Flop: Pot $30
9

I Cbet $25
Villain raises to $50
I call.

Turn: Pot $130
9

I check
Villain Bets $50
I call.

River: Pot $230
9

I check
Villain bets $110
I call

What is villains range here, is there a way i could've played this differently/better?

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11-25-2011 , 10:48 AM

spyu

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,667

What are the stack sizes?

I would probably have raised the flop, but definitely CRAI on the turn for most stack sizes.

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11-25-2011 , 10:55 AM

Lopos

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 102

Heh yeah I guess that would be relevant information.

I have $535 at the start of the hand, villain covers.

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11-25-2011 , 11:00 AM

madlondoner

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,515

Well you can't raise at any point. You're beat only by a
Set but that is what it looks like they have

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11-25-2011 , 12:38 PM

samo

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,251

With over 100 bbs and a straight-forward V, I think you should fold OTR.

I think we can eliminate 99 since the flop is too dry to fold hands that are WB. OTF, I'd range TT-QQ, 44, 22. A 3-bet is viable, but being oop makes playing the turn very diff if the V were to flat. Seems like 3-betting OTF and c/f OTT is a weak move, and leading may commit your stack.

OTT - you are WA or WB based on their sizing. TT-QQ probably checking most of the time, but may be probing to see if you have AK. A set is trying to keep you in.

OTR - fold as you are only beating AK, QQ, JJ which would likely check-back. AK likely would have bet more OTT.

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11-25-2011 , 01:16 PM

dj_goldman

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 491

You are in trouble. His range is QQ-TT, 99, 44, 22 with the sets far more likely. I don't see why he didn't just flat with a set OTF, but it is also hard to imagine why he would bet the river like that with QQ-TT. I don't see AK as very likely based on flop play - that move is probably too aggro for this villain.

The best decision on the river is villain dependent. If he is nitty, folding is prudent. If you think he might be capable of big river bluffs or super thin value bets, you need to call. Not knowing more, I would probably go with the former. It is a tough fold in the heat of battle though.

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11-25-2011 , 01:53 PM

kenji08

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,360

Never folding at any point in the hand. Call an make a note of it. Well played

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11-25-2011 , 02:05 PM

Bagzzz

adept

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 848

If you plan on calling $100 on the river, minraise the turn. It is cheaper, and you find out if you are beat. If he reraises or calls, he clearly has AK+ since he has to put you on that and has to assume you are not going anywhere. He will not bet when you check the river unless he has AK beat (which means he also has AA beat)

The way you played it, you could have anywhere from A9+. The way he played it, he has A9+. This is why your decision is so difficult. What if he has QQ or JJ? Since you are check calling and underrepping your hand, you are forced into difficult decisions on later streets. If you represent AK+, and he still is aggressive, you are beat.

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11-25-2011 , 09:20 PM

zhenzhenZHEN

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 352

^sounds very bad

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11-25-2011 , 11:04 PM

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livegrinder

banned

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,308

fold turn. what hand do we really beat?

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11-25-2011 , 11:27 PM

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Yossarian147

adept

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 929

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Originally Posted by Bagzzz

Turning AA into a bluff here is pretty bad. Raising "for information" is also pretty bad. Sets are a big part of his range on the turn, since pretty much every underpair like QQ JJ TT would check behind a lot of the time.

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11-26-2011 , 12:03 PM

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Precept24

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 8,605

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Originally Posted by kenji08

Never folding at any point in the hand. Call an make a note of it. Well played

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11-26-2011 , 12:31 PM

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playertee

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4,999

The fact that the K doesnt seem to bother him makes me fold the river, maybe the turn

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