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2/3/5 DS game, 8c6c OTB 2/3/5 DS game, 8c6c OTB

08-06-2017 , 03:18 PM
Playing the deepstack game w/kill at Bay101 in San Jose. $10 kill runs permanently UTG, so it's essentially a 5/10 game. Max BI is $1500, and effective stacks are $3k, hero covers.

The table dynamics have been very favorable for speculative hands. Pre-flop is rarely 3!, and flops are usually 3-5 handed.

SB is a mid-30s Asian man, very active post-flop. He's hit 3 hands recently a built a stack to just over $3k, up from about $800. Has been more active since winning hands.

UTG is a mid-20's middle eastern guy. Limp/calls a lot, and I haven't seen him fold from the blinds to an open in 2 hours. He and I chopped a huge pot earlier with 2 pair. Stack is ~$2800.

OTTH

Folds around to hero OTB with 8c6c

Hero bets $45
SB calls
UTG calls

Pot is $135

Flop is 10c 7c 4d

check
check

Hero?
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08-06-2017 , 03:20 PM
Bet seems fine. We've got plenty of equity.
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08-06-2017 , 03:24 PM
80 or so. Standard stuff. Why not write down the inflection point?
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08-06-2017 , 03:36 PM
Hero bets $90.

SB raises to $210
UTG calls.

Hero? This raise seems fishy to me, given stack sizes, but not really out of character for SB. He could easily be doing this with JT. UTG would likely 4! with a made hand, but will absolutely call with clubs and possibly 89.
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08-06-2017 , 03:56 PM
Flat. There is a ton of information waiting for you on the turn that will help you shape how you want to play out the rest of the hand along with a ton of play 3k deep. Don't worry about squeezing out higher FD type hands at this point.
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08-06-2017 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Amanaplan
Flat. There is a ton of information waiting for you on the turn that will help you shape how you want to play out the rest of the hand along with a ton of play 3k deep. Don't worry about squeezing out higher FD type hands at this point.
This is what I was questioning. Thanks for the quick reply.

Hero calls.

Turn Qd.

SB checks
UTG checks
Hero checks.

I think this turn action narrows UTG to drawing hands, while still keeping Jx in SB's range who's now looking to fade the deck with a weakish TP. This kinda puts my hand face-up, imo, but I see no reason to potentially bloat the pot to over 2K with no FE and being faced with a huge bet from UTG should a club hit the river.

Pot is $765.

River 5s.

Bink.

check check
Hero bets $375.

SB and UTG fold.

Is my overall thought process here ok?
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08-06-2017 , 04:15 PM
I'm officially confused. I really want to fold because I think clubs gets us in a lot of trouble, but with some nut outs in position with some implied odds I think we have to peel

Eta: oops I meant to post this after flop action lol

Think it's fine. Thought we had some more implied odds and it very well looks like clubs are no good for us
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08-06-2017 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Perm
This is what I was questioning. Thanks for the quick reply.

Hero calls.

Turn Qd.

SB checks
UTG checks
Hero checks.

I think this turn action narrows UTG to drawing hands, while still keeping Jx in SB's range who's now looking to fade the deck with a weakish TP. This kinda puts my hand face-up, imo, but I see no reason to potentially bloat the pot to over 2K with no FE and being faced with a huge bet from UTG should a club hit the river.

Pot is $765.

River 5s.

Bink.

check check
Hero bets $375.

SB and UTG fold.

Is my overall thought process here ok?
Put a good bet on the turn. It'll fold majority if not all of 1P hands, and you have good equity against any other hand.
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08-06-2017 , 08:02 PM
Ya I'm planning to bet about 2/3rds pot on turn and river. We have good immediate fold equity on the turn and can get there too.
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08-06-2017 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jdr0317
Ya I'm planning to bet about 2/3rds pot on turn and river. We have good immediate fold equity on the turn and can get there too.
Perhaps villain dependent, but think my FE is greatly diminished here. I expect at least 1 and perhaps 2 calls if I bet $450, potentially leaving me with a $2100 pot, a ton of blank rivers, 3 out to the nuts, 3 to the second nuts, and 9 that commit me to effective stacks that I'm really not in love with. I my view, it's better to call a river bet when the flush hits on a $700 hand, but maybe I'm a bit too mubsy after the river action.

Hindsight being what it is, I wish I have bet....lol.
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08-06-2017 , 10:23 PM
Everything looks good to me, sucks you didn't get called with such a disguised nut hand. Could get into some tough spots if a non 9 club hits, looks like clubs when V2 cold calls the flop.
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08-06-2017 , 11:55 PM
Check turn is good. More otr.
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08-07-2017 , 10:20 AM
Does everyone realize we have a double gut straightflish draw?

Size way bigger flop and if youre calm/playing good you can flat otherwise yolo this thing in their faces
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08-07-2017 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Does everyone realize we have a double gut straightflish draw?

Size way bigger flop and if youre calm/playing good you can flat otherwise yolo this thing in their faces
I was playing very calm, and the table dynamics were extremely favorable for my game. I was only in 1-2 spots over a 6 hour session where I felt like I actually had to rethink my action.

And I'm too nitty to yolo this for 3K...lol. The SF is a single gut shot, but would have likely ended up in a $7-9k pot...jesus that would have been epic.
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